Because significantly less than 100% of your investment actually goes into purchasing or improving the property, and the property is purchased at retail value (or worse), your returns will badly lag any benchmark of direct property investment.  2.

Although instead of knowing about roofs and rehab.. land folks need to know about:Zoningwhere is the power  is there internethow deep are the wells or is its an area that water is super toughDoes it perc. and or how expensive are septic systems.Wetlands Etc.Now if you target land with all city services then its just dead simple.. figure out the retail value and buy below it and do your flip..

We do a pretty decent amount of land acquisition but we target specifically retail center points in rural areas.  

Now that doesn't mean you can't get creative on your own to avoid paying retail. 

I agree with you about the amount of sub 2 deals out there that make any kind of sense I get the feeling investor just think these things are out there as low hanging fruit to be plucked.. when nothing is further from the truth at least deals that would make sense to me and you .. of course there are always suckers that think over paying or paying full retail just to do a sub 2 is some great move. :)  but its like any paid training the reality of deal flow is greatly glossed over.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------I have the cost list for the classes but they state they are tailored to meAll together @ retail - $29,976 without Asset Protection/Entity Structuring - $17,976 Money School Essentials (Virtual 3 day plus 1 year recordings plus access to library)$1891PMC Premier - 1497/PMC Accelerator coaching -2997$5,494PMC RE Performance Bus Tour (12 week RE Coaching) - 7997/VIP Money Tank - 1297 (EACH)$10,591Asset Protection/Entity Structuring $12,000Success Team Tuition - $20,488 WITHOUT ASSET - $12,488 Money School Essentials( Live Virtual 3 day plus 1 year recordings and access to library)includedPMC Premier - 997/ PMC Accelerator coaching - 2497$3,494BUS TOUR/PMC RE 12 week on Demand - 6997Money Tank -2 TICKETS - 997 EACH$8,991API LAW (asset protection/entity/trust)$8,000-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------This has all been over the phone or email. 

I have purchase owner financed at below market rate at retail price.  

If you purchase online, find a retailer that has the delivery window at the point of purchase.

I took title to each in a separate series of my LLC, which is the same as per entity protection as having each in a separate LLC but with the organizational and accounting costs of having a single LLC.In the case of each I carried hazard and liability insurance for the INTERIOR of the condo while the HOA carried insurance for the “common” areas, including structural.This particular condo was on the second floor, with retail and office space directly below.  

I have been officially onboarded by a super host that will be mentoring me in the city I want to invest in, I meet with her today, and looking at her data each property (she has like 17) she hosts makes well over 40-80k in revenue (depending on rooms) and it looks like she does retail arbitrage for every one of her properties.I really do appreciate the advice Cody really.Thank you for the advice and feedback!