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22 January 2025 | 31 replies
that we’ve learned in our 24 years, managing almost 700 doors across the Metro Detroit area, including almost 100 S8 leases:Class A Properties:Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, 3-5 years for positive cashflow, but you get highest relative rent & value appreciation.Vacancy Est: Historically 10%, 5% the more recent norm.Tenant Pool: Majority will have FICO scores of 680+ (roughly 5% probability of default), zero evictions in last 7 years.Class B Properties:Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, decent amount of relative rent & value appreciation.Vacancy Est: Historically 10%, 5% should be applied only if proper research done to support.Tenant Pool: Majority will have FICO scores of 620-680 (around 10% probability of default), some blemishes, but should have no evictions in last 5 yearsClass C Properties:Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, high cashflow and at the lower end of relative rent & value appreciation.
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28 January 2025 | 2 replies
I'll keep it fully furnished, so I can potentially charge more, especially since it’s also near a major hospital in Astoria and close to LGA.Do you think this plan is feasible?
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21 January 2025 | 14 replies
The vast majority of licensees don't do any business.
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16 January 2025 | 6 replies
For example do you have a great w2 and can you afford to cover costs of a major repair or 3 months of vacancy?
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29 January 2025 | 6 replies
The problem is the buildings are in major need of repair...and because of this, rents are one of the lowest in town.
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7 February 2025 | 10 replies
We were just really lucky to not have any major issues pop up until last year.
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6 February 2025 | 6 replies
I also like Haverhill as a peripheral city to Boston - commuter rail stop, close to major highways, and nice downtown with some municipal improvements on the way.PROPERTY OVERVIEW:Unit Mix: (3) 2BR units, (1) 1BR unit, plus parkingRecent Upgrades: New roof, updated electrical panels, new hot water heaterLocation: Walkable to downtown in a well-established neighborhoodParking: Dual driveways provide off-street parking for tenantsRENOVATION SCOPE & COSTS:Limited photos available, but if the rest of the house is in similar condition, likely cosmetic rehab only (~$30K per unit).Potential upgrades include paint, flooring, kitchen cabinets/counters, and appliances.Ideal for a DIY landlord or owner-occupant looking to add value, but also works well for any investor seeking cashflow.MARKET RENTS & INCOME POTENTIAL:Market Rent Estimates (based on local comps):2BR Units: $2,200 - $2,500/month1BR Unit: ~$2,000/monthTotal Potential Rent: ~$8,600/monthCurrently Fully Tenanted:Current rents cover mortgage payment.Would need to manage tenant move-outs before renovations, which could delay the project.Evictions may be necessary if tenants do not leave voluntarily.FINANCIALS & PROJECTED RETURNS:Financing Assumptions:20% down payment, 7% interest rate, 30-year fixed mortgagePrincipal & Interest (P&I): ~$4,524/monthAnnual Expenses (including taxes & insurance): ~$17,000Utility Costs:Heat is not separately metered, leading to higher utility costs (factored into analysis).Projected Cash Flow & Returns:10% cash-on-cash return once stabilized$31K+ annual cash flow5-year total ROI ~95%, factoring in principal paydown and 2% annual appreciation
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27 January 2025 | 6 replies
Any major drawbacks or is it easier than it sounds?
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4 February 2025 | 12 replies
@Travis Gutting, the fact of the matter is: $100k in today's market is by and large going to land you in a "rough part of town", a MAJOR renovation, or into rural areas.Granted, I don't know every market, but Cincinnati (my market) and Louisville are not too dissimilar.
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16 January 2025 | 3 replies
I don't see it as an issue but many still do, at least in my small town where the majority of renters are elderly people looking for low maintenance housing options.