And even then, the life cycle is generally pretty long from first contact to closing.  

But it doesn't seem to be riskier and more doomed to fail than BRRRR and other types of long term holding/land lording.  

Quote from @Ben Wisan: Hi all,I am newer to this website and community.quick question for everyone.

If that's the case, you'll want to start with a fix and flip (or hold) type of loan, complete your renovations, get it rented out and THEN refinance into a DSCR loan for a long term hold. 

First post and long time listener.

I figured my network of people I help/work for, will help in the long run. 

Their behavior definitely got worse during this current, second lease term.

Off-market deals give you control over pricing, terms, and creative financing options.

I think we will see more "adult" families living together...kids move back in or parents move in with kids.The traditional apartment model was based on 12month leases, but jobs are not always 12 months and people want flexible terms, so co-living often offers that.Seems like younger people between 20-30 and some other age groups don't want to get married and start that housing pathway our parents and grandparents took.   

My goal is to achieve financial freedom through house hacking and long-term rental properties.