It does sound like you have some justification to be a little disappointed in their response to the matter.  

On Podcast #17, Jeff Brown mentions that the "traditional" vehicles towards retirement wealth are dated and end up disappointing their users at the age of 60+.

I'll be disappointed if you end up being like the rest after reading all of this and still reaching out to me.

This emphasizes the importance of a great team and perseverance in the face of failure and disappointments.

In fact if you step into this business with the mindset of making it overnight then you might end up being disappointed!

Sometimes this is for the better, and sometimes it's a bit of a disappointment for the renovator.

In that instance you would need to underwrite the deal as bank is saying 4.5 today but project rates rise to 4.8 by the time you close in 45 days and see if it still pencils.Don't do a deal based on everything going perfectly in a purchase or you are setting yourself up for disappointment.

Mark go with the Trafficmaster Allure you wont be disappointed

I have sent several clients of my own to him that are looking for buy and hold, and not one has come back disappointed. 

I was just as disappointed when I discovered the price tag for his apprentice program.