I am not a huge fan of them personally as they are PE investors and have a very, very narrow view of the industry and how it should be approached. 

I can see this industry moves at the speed of light and it's a bit overwhelming... once I get my ish together I would like to connect.

When I do it at 20% down, I can only find negative cashflow, so I could be looking in the wrong spot, or I need to put more down, or I am missing something all together.I have read that making a 8% return or higher is what to look for, and I can find break even.

Hey, Max I agree foundation was one of the last property management we had and your spot about them!

Keep in mind, though, that each lender has their own criteria for how much future potential they’ll factor in, so it might come down to some skillful negotiation and presenting detailed projections that don’t feel like puffery.Just be careful not to come off as overly speculative…lenders tendd to shy away from what sounds too good to be true.Anyway, I’m curious.. have you spotted any other investors in Gainesville facing a similar refinance puzzle and what kind of terms were they able to secure? 

What a cool spot!!! 

We bought it because it is in a great spot for long term appreciation and rent growth.Our new house in Santa Cruz County was a deal we couldn't pass up on.

The Forest industry is one of the most corrupt industries.  

Within the Industry.

I just wanted a general industry over view of markup.