Recommend: target Class B properties, maybe Classs C+ in gentrifying neighborhoods.Run your calculations BACKWARDS to determine the purchase price for the ROI YOU WANT.Make that offer.Repeat as many times as necessary until an offer accepted.Before the 2008 Crash, we used to plan on writing 100 offers, to get maybe 10 accepted, to actually close on 1 property.It takes work to be successful!

But once you go down that slippery slope 99% will end up making it worse and then crash spectacularly. 

Compared to Vegas and there is hardly any land left so you wont see the same dynamics to Vegas as you did in the Crash..

It’s time to fly and create the prosperity I seek or crash and at least know I took my shot.  

Joshua,Thank you for this crash course. 100% ii was using PITI as i do with my single families, i will adjust and look at that.

At least, that was true the last time I checked, which was probably in the middle of the crash, when there were so many foreclosures to be bought.

I'd rather spend 300 a month on a subscription + texts on batchskiptracing and actually know when my stuff goes out vs 75 a month on a subscription and texts on this software and have no idea when all my texts are going out, not being able to stop a campaign unless I delete it, and just praying that the complicated steps I took when setting up my campaign don't backfire, or crash, or nothing goes out, or whatever.

After the market crashed in 2008 we went on a buying spree from about 2009 until 2015/6 (buy & hold) until the numbers didn't make as much sense as the prices started creeping up again, rent prices were flat and many competitors started entering the marketplace.  

so i watch the crash bros, I listen to Robert Kiyosaki's podcast - I think I'm supposed to buy lots of silver?

Always funny hearing statements about the "bubble" popping and house markets crashing, etc.