After the meeting I needed the rest of the day to get my blood pressure back into its normally above average range and to replace my rage with run of the mill anger.

And if the seller is broke, well then, you can't get blood out of a turnip.

@Karen Margrave   probably function of the Rochester market  lots of inventory changing hands  old investors wanting out new blood coming in...

Clearly if the company comes across a property with mineral rights, they'll keep that for themselves along with absolutely every molecule of blood and oxygen possible.So after sitting at the Title company for an hour, I get the call from the loan guy.

The folks here on bp are contradicting what google describes arms lenth as any relationship 'blood or no blood'The bp guys are saying arms length is only 'blood relative' Am i missing something? 

Helping them wasn't appreciated in the end and now we have some bad blood between us as they are having to pay me for the damages. a crappy house means crappy tenants, even though I fixed this house up to livable safe condition I didn't put a lot of money into the repairs, aside from a new roof.

Success in partnerships would come from similar ways of thinking rather than blood relations.It is a bit saddening that the responses confirm my concerns.

When you try and squeeze a pref out of non-cash flow assets, you might as well try getting blood from a rock.  

Our houses are expensive, we invested our life, our blood, family time, not to mention money.  

I cant resist a house that needs some work and DIY is practically in my blood.