@James DeRoest  burned out landlords remain one of the mainstay's of acquiring new inventory... that's for sure.. and its true at virtually every price point..

@CHaim K.Although I haven't personally lost money on tax liens, some things I learned about them compared to notes over the years, generally speaking:- tax liens are safer lien position (i'll give 'em that)- tax liens are slower to reward than notes, with virtually no cashflow- i found it harder to deploy large amounts of capital with tax liens vs. notes.

Have you all ever Flipped a property out of state/ virtually with a partner?

He also has an academy that you can join but you really don't need to if you listen to his show from the beginning.Chris Chico sells a program that he calls virtual wholesaling that teaches people how to do wholesaling from a distance.

I closed and lost a business, (wasn't in llc). sold motorcycle, boat, business assets, refinanced a paid off home,  lost a vp position at my job, just about lost my 30 yr marriage, almost had a nervous breakdown, became a virtual recluse.     

There are lots of them and they have VERY nice cars for congregating around this virtual tear down.

I’m proud to call many BP members friends, some virtual and some I’ve actually spent time with in person.

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Problem is, you have no legal right to enter the property until until after the full amount of the bid is paid, and this risk of 'potential unknowns' makes getting even hard money virtually impossible, no matter how good the deal is.I always allow for an absolute maximum cost total rehab in my figures on any property I bid on (and always check the property externally), and there's still plenty of 'meat on the bone'.

There is some great stuff on here about wholesaling and you can do it virtually if you think your market is to expensive.