Owners nights are your best bet but often they don't stand by what they say either. 

I contacted them and got an email form them referring me to a 3rd company that could help me get started on investing in notes and provides education, seemed odd...

If I lend 30k for someone to close a REO deal then I'll have their car pledged, or have a co-signor that pledges the 30k if it is defaulted.a 2nd lien position with no protection is like going to Vegas and betting on black, only on that bet you win 30k, in a 2nd lien position what do you stand to make on a 30k short term loan? 

Let them know that next year there will be another increase, and they will have to take over utilities.The odds are pretty good that they can't afford the increase, or they won't want to.

I'm not one to plug my business and there is enough good, bad and ugly online for all to see.You will find many "real world" reviews on both Ohio Cashflow and Oz Realty via a Google search.Not perfect by any means and we make mistakes.Honest mistakes that we do our best to rectify.Standing the test of time in a real estate niche called turnkey that has been scared by many shady operators speaks for itself IMO.I will say this, investors buying sub $100,000 properties and only owning 1 or 2 and expecting miracles are usually unsatisfied.Sub $100,000 requires volume to work and for a decent long term return to be realized.Our price points are $70,000 - $100,000 and rent's are from $750 - $1,100pm2bed, 1bath and 3 bed, 1 bath is our bread and butter.Sometimes 4 bed, 1 bath and rarely 4 bed, 2 bath or 3 bed, 2 bath.The odd duplex from time to time and the odd 4 unit or 6 unit but those are rare.B class areas mostly.Sometimes B- and C class on occasion which we will stress clearly in any deal pro-forma along with the pro's and con's.Also, those that get their panties in a tangle and decide to leave the wing of Ohio Cashflow, we can't help much anymore as it get's messy and muddy so we have to politely bow out from any continued engagement. 

I guess the bet is the larger property will cashflow better than the old existing properties? 

Thanks, I agree, Bridge Cash out will be the best bet

I have a neighbor with an odd sized little piece of property that would work for me to build a shop for woodworking and general storage.

This is probably a tougher one considering most Hard Money / Private lenders that are go-to for BRRRRs like this focus on residential only - your best bet might be private money found here or in person networking or a local bank / credit union. 

They often do qualify and I bet you could too.