If the person wants to play stupid games: two years.

Expense ratios vary dramatically depending on project size, age and other factors, but basic rule of thumb is the smaller the project the higher the expense ratio's, using a 33% expense ratio for a small facility (less than 150 units) is optimistic, smaller facilities are probably closer to 40%.

It's a real pain to enforce but it's worth it.The majority of carriers right now have a loss rule on new business that varies but goes something like this... they will not accept your new policy if you have a loss in the last 3 or 5 years.

At the same time, if it is 5+ units the underwriting guidelines will be different than 1-4 units will be, so answers will vary.

If you are buying a turn key and do not expect to take cash out for a few years just gauge that on your prepayment penalty years.Rates vary depending on credit scores, LTV, DSCR ratio, Loan amount, Property type, number of units.Good news is rates have been dropping so DSCR may not be a bad option if you buy and simply refinance in 12-24 months.

I've included an example below to help illustrate this.So different lenders have different rates (which do vary even for DSCR loans) but these are factors they all consider.See example below:DSCR < 1Principal + Interest = $1,700Taxes = $350, Insurance = $100, Association Dues = $50Total PITIA = $2200Rent = $2000DSCR = Rent/PITIA = 2000/2200 = 0.91Since the DSCR is 0.91, we know the expenses are greater than the income of the property.DSCR >1Principal + Interest = $1,500Taxes = $250, Insurance = $100, Association Dues = $25Total PITIA = $1875 Rent = $2300DSCR = Rent/PITIA = 2300/1875 = 1.23If a purchase, you also generally need reserves / savings to show you have 3-6 month payments of PITIA (principal / interest (mortgage payment), property taxes and insurance and HOA (if applicable).

i suspect this will vary by market ….  

This will be a long term game plan.

Quote from @Melissa Nash: I get that this is probably a post to engage in conversations.... but I will play this game.

Does it vary from state to state?