For example we pay our own income taxes, broker splits and all of our other expenses directly out of what we make including required E&O insurance, MLS dues, licensing fees, Board of Realtor dues, continuing education costs, marketing, advertising, office fees/rent, transaction coordinator/ assistant fees, health insurance, car insurance and maintenance, gas, tires, software, retirement fund, etc.We are not W2 employees with payroll taxes already taken out of our paychecks, company-paid health insurance and matching retirement account plus a guarantee of at least 40 hours paid work per week, sick pay, paid vacation… none of that.So if you’re thinking you’ll be able to pay an hourly wage typical of a W2 hourly employee like $50-85/hr… that’s definitely not going to work.

Since I am super new to this, I do have a few questions:By testing the list, do you mean what data am I pulling (absentee owner, tired landlord, etc)Testing my mailer, do you mean trying different messaging?

I've had smooth loans close with Kiavi and I've had rough ones, same with Roc.When Loans start to be troublesome:1) The borrowing entity docs are a mess2) The appraisal numbers are lower than expected3) Messy background reports4) Loans happening in an environment where market/rate fluctuating unpredictably 5) Your loan officer and their team are poor at their job6) Title issues that depend on county docs, that can be slow and painfulThere's more but it's Friday and I'm tired....

You reference taking out a HELOC and those are generally provided when the property is in your personal name, which I don't recommend for investment properties.Overall, it sounds as if you're tired of dealing with "long distance" ownership.

@Kenny Bao typically I’ve found my work in connecting in off market deals 100+ units has left me spinning my tires.  

Home inspections was a next step for me as I get older and my body is starting to get tired.

Tired landlords have been the sellers in most of the situations, but also kids who inherited a probate house, and don’t have the resource to fix it up.  

We're both tired of the W2 grind. 

I am TIRED of moving and RENTING!!!!

Always keep in mind that you won't blink to pay $2,000 for a new tires on your SUV.