Hard to believe what some people will do over a little money.....Link to story:  Cudahy man allegedly shoots and kills landlord over $30 rent increaseA $30 rent increase was allegedly the motivation for a man killing ...

I'm sort of just determined to solve this mystery now, ha!

The gutter punks that sleep in them, the drug dealers that work out of them, the women who are raped in them, and even the folks who are murdered in them.

If the borrower is not bringing it to the table as a large down payment, the appraiser (mysteriously) comes back with a low appraisal.  

Also I didn't know anyother way.This was the most killer point in the entire thread:A common theme seems to be out of state investors buying cheap houses, doing $5,000 cosmetic "rehabs", renting them out, bragging about the positive cash flow for awhile and then BANG, a few months later they are back on BP, screaming bloody murder and complaining about the leaking roof that has caused a ceiling to collapse. and then we have Big @Ben Leybovich , piling on, pointing out the smeared lipstick on our $30k pigs, dancing on the dead carcass of the out of state investor, and "P r o b a b l y" wagging his "I told you so" finger at his computer screen, and grinning ear to ear as he pats himself on the back for being right again.  

A few years ago the local newspaper wrote an article naming that area as the "Murder Factory" of Kansas City.  

Your system there is different than ours, but....whether the junior lien holders were Properly notified, or not, shouldn't be a mystery. 

Following this thread has been like getting absorbed in a whodunit mystery - not necessarily the most desirable outcome, but this experience will no doubt come in handy somewhere down the line.

Worst case, they are rapist/murderers.

I understand many of the financing options available for SFH, but commercial is really a great unknown for me.Thanks for helping to clear up some of the mystery!