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30 January 2025 | 10 replies
That means there is not really an effect on the debt to income ratio neither positive (income) or negative (loss) but rather simply making that payment non issue.
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25 January 2025 | 24 replies
Your looking at this really cool and unique position your in, and focusing on it as a problem.
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26 January 2025 | 54 replies
People in the group are great, positive, and supporting.
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23 January 2025 | 0 replies
Roughly $600 per month in positive cash flow.What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?
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27 January 2025 | 3 replies
Some lenders offer creative solutions, like a cross-collateralized loan, where they use your existing equity as security without refinancing the duplex.Another idea is partnering with private lenders or exploring a second-position mortgage, depending on your lender's terms.
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20 January 2025 | 22 replies
that we’ve learned in our 24 years, managing almost 700 doors across the Metro Detroit area, including almost 100 S8 leases:Class A Properties:Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, 3-5 years for positive cashflow, but you get highest relative rent & value appreciation.Vacancy Est: Historically 10%, 5% the more recent norm.Tenant Pool: Majority will have FICO scores of 680+ (roughly 5% probability of default), zero evictions in last 7 years.Class B Properties:Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, decent amount of relative rent & value appreciation.Vacancy Est: Historically 10%, 5% should be applied only if proper research done to support.Tenant Pool: Majority will have FICO scores of 620-680 (around 10% probability of default), some blemishes, but should have no evictions in last 5 yearsClass C Properties:Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, high cashflow and at the lower end of relative rent & value appreciation.
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15 January 2025 | 8 replies
I'm curious why you want a HELOC instead of a conventional loan in the first position.
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27 January 2025 | 6 replies
that we’ve learned in our 24 years, managing almost 700 doors across the Metro Detroit area, including almost 100 S8 leases:Class A Properties:Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, 3-5 years for positive cashflow, but you get highest relative rent & value appreciation.Vacancy Est: Historically 10%, 5% the more recent norm.Tenant Pool: Majority will have FICO scores of 680+ (roughly 5% probability of default), zero evictions in last 7 years.Class B Properties:Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, decent amount of relative rent & value appreciation.Vacancy Est: Historically 10%, 5% should be applied only if proper research done to support.Tenant Pool: Majority will have FICO scores of 620-680 (around 10% probability of default), some blemishes, but should have no evictions in last 5 yearsClass C Properties:Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, high cashflow and at the lower end of relative rent & value appreciation.
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4 February 2025 | 5 replies
That can get you some money up front to continue to build your portfolio and it takes you out of being a landloard and puts you into the position of being the bank instead.
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29 January 2025 | 0 replies
If one tenant moves out, the property remains cash-flow positive.