I think there must be some organization that has this canned business model ready to go and approaches people who have names / followings and offers to implement it for them, given the near absolute uniformity in the advertising, and the convention / sell / upsell structure with all the exact same sales tactics, just substituting out the guru for the flavor of the week.

Quote from @Joe S.: Quote from @Dan Zambrano: Hey all,After thinking it over I decided to create a new thread.I am a small time passive real estate investor who has ambitions to expand greatly, first to $20M and perhaps maybe more. i guess I will give a little bit of background on my journey up to now.I am 38 y/o, Electrical Engineer by day, Architectural enthusiast by night.

Yes, thanks @Joe S

Quote from @Joe R.: Anyone with experience on Norada Promissory Notes? 

Hi Joe, I am looking to form a Mastermind Group in NY.

Quote from @Joe Mills: You are exempt if you meet one of the following requirements:Owner-occupied buildings Properties with four units or fewer that are owned and lived in by the ownerSingle-family homes Homes that are sold or rented without a broker by the owner, as long as the owner doesn't own more than three at onceIf those don't apply, then you must abide by Fair Housing and you must make reasonable accommodations for people with assistance animals.

However multifamily/hotels/mall/office asset class are extremely volative and too much rate-sensitive.It's no longer even about particular syndicator, basically some of your asset class can't survive interest rate.For average Joe and Mary, best advice is just to simply put money into SPY/SGOV or direct SF home ownership.

@Joe S.

But the posters who invested here are uniformly very quick to claim what they invested in was a fraud.  

Quote from @Isadore Nelson: Quote from @Joe Hammel: Metro Detroit has what 99% of Real Estate Investors want.