I don't expect that to work out for them.My phrases are: End the dive in '25. 

IMO outside of a few small markets in the southeast the midwest is the only region in the U.S right now where you can purchase property with leverage and still expect a reasonable cash flow. 

I expect my residential RE return to far exceed passive options because I expect to be well compensated for my efforts. 

I expect a free estimate from a contrator who possibly would be doing the actual work. 

I learned that with an A-Class tenant expectations are higher and had to step up my level of service.

If I add up all the lender fees and my holding costs—like points, origination fees, and interest —I can figure out how much profit I’ll make and what my maximum offer should be.

Now, you need to figure out how to find deals and pay for them.

Quote from @Rajagopalarao Paidi: I have not seen any deals with this much spread like rehab+pp/.75, is this still valid and expected, because I have not come across any in this range  Hey Rajagopalaroa--Agreed--I don't use the 75% rule. 

  $200/month divides into the $100K initial negative equals 500 months to recover the initial negative equity.Let's double the cash flow to $400/month.  250 months to recover the initial negative equity so over 20 years.Let's reduce the negative equity position to $50K (which likely is less realistic than expecting $400/month cash flow at that rent point), you are at over 10 years to recover the initial equity position.Now let's do it with all cash, no financing.The 50% rule state $900/month cash flow.  900 * 12/200K = $5.4% or about half of lifetime return of S&P 500, or what can almost be achieved with a zero work, zero risk CD.I see no way that someone who understands the numbers will call this a good investment.Note just because an investment is better than most other investments in a market does not imply something is a good investment. 

I should have figured out it was a scam because of every reason you listed.