So, after drinking up as much of the bird doggin' wholesaling lingo I could, I decided to use my lunch today to go out and do some REI therapy, AKA: find absent owners or do some bird doggin'.After about 15 minutes, I found a decent house that I thought might fit an investor's eye.

Furthermore, trying to get your offer to the lender wont work, and even if it did, they dont have the authority to sell a house that doesnt belong to them.

We decided that agents have not performed for us, so we will be looking for properties on our own, as we belong to a very large MLS.Hope this will clarify your concerns.

Hey Donna - I assume you belong to different REIA organizations there in San Diego and hopefully you belong to the largest REIA in that area.

Obviously you know that your best bet is with an agent that belongs to MLS.

Note that it may be longer than you can see at once, but it is all there, be sure to get it all.

Do any of you belong to the local REI clubs as well?

I've made offers on several short sales in the past but never actually bought one.I've been told to put language in the contract to the effect of "property will be delivered vacant and all of owner/occupants' or tenants belonging will be removed before closing date".What about the final walkthrough?

I am going post this one and it's going to be long (sorry in advance).When reading the discussion, I think it is devolving into debating the merits of apples, oranges, bananas and grapes all at the same time.

Okay so I move a new tenant into a unit.They call the next day and say the tubs are not draining well.We go and inspect and the tubs are slow draining.We put drain-o and others down the line and it does nothing.Then we call our plumber and he snakes the line.The problem is someone put in a T line from the 2 tubs instead of a Y line so the line is clear from tub to tub but the snake cannot turn a corner to go further into the pipe.So the plumber suggest we use CLOBBER from a specialty store which is straight concentrated sulfuric acid.This does not clear the line.Plumber comes out and then installs a Y line fixing the T-line.Puts a camera down the line from the kitchen which is downstairs and the bath plumbing is in the ceiling.He sees a drink cap and what looks like a bottle but can't tell.We are thinking from a roof put on years ago a roofer dropped a drink down the plumbing vent and it is stuck.So the plumber opens up the wall above the kitchen sink and VOILA the problem is found!