Go see them for a final negotiation, use your best negotiation techniques to get them down as best you can and get this deal done at the best price before this deal slips away from you and someone else grabs it.

I suspect you're using this technique to wholesale retail property to folks with crappy credit.It's not a bad idea if you can make it work.

I also do stock options as a hobby (and I know some excellent techniques :)    The point is, I've learned a lot about stocks and options from Stansberry Radio, and one of the hosts is James Altucher, who is a super-smart guy!!   

There are a few different pricing techniques out there depending on if you want to keep the property or quickly sell it.

If appfolio were to either acquire or partner with paylease.com or rentpayment.com (yapstone inc), or paynearme.com enlarges its footprint, they would add a lot of value to landlords like me with under 50 or 100 units who want cash rent payments.Note: leaning towards buildium & definately paylease now.

If you like one technique more then the other you can make it happen regardless what the markets like.

What kind of techniques would I need to get a seller to sell me a property at 50%-65% market value?

It should at least appraise at the purchase price (even if for some really weird reason it appraised at less after rehab, I should be able to refinance it for the majority of the purchase price)..Are there any techniques that you know of where I could lock a refinance in place before I move forward w/ the property?

I don't know of any owner financing technique that doesn't. 

No pitch here, just informing of the difficulty of the materials and presenting it at a level that can be understood by an 8th grader.As to being north of the 48th, I have know idea at all what your note market is, if there is one, what laws or rules apply or techniques that might be allowed.