fee of $5,000 to which I responded, "with all the money out there seeking a place to be, why would I need Lendbase to shop for a loan for me?".

Collect properties instead of money.

Top 3 reasons owners hire PMCs:1) No time to manage correctly2) No time to learn how to manage correcly: laws, documents, processes, etc.3) They're too nice and need someone to "save them from themselves"A good PMC can usually earn their fees by better managing the property/tenant than the owner, thereby:1) Increasing owners net profit2) Decreasing owner's time commitment, stress, headaches, etc.No matter what though, you should always plan to commit a couple of hours a month to manage your PMC.

Yes you will save some money by self managing but more important you will learn what it takes to manage a property. 

I'm sure he could give you some pointers on setting up a business and creative ways to save money.

Many property owners rented, and decided not to rebuild, but to sell their homes and use the money to invest, travel, etc., staying in rentals.

Do not spend any more money on wholesale courses.

If we wanted to sell we could get our money back.

We're spending so much money...this better work feeling."

I only plan to manage these two from out of state until we're able to refinance our second home as we're losing money on this particular house for rent as we bought this home last year.