Also, in a mainstream asset class like value-added multifamily, I see no reason to take a risk on a sponsor that doesn't have full real estate cycle experience or that lost anything more than a small amount of money (and prefer no money lost).

How would the bank even know the gross pay amount?

The amount you'll save off of the purchase price will be significantly more than what the vacancy will cost.

I forget exactly the amount of time because it was so long ago.

gotta echo the sentiment for spending some time on the ground even if a small amount on the front end. 

I know not typical on here to have such a little amount in loans but we enjoy great cash flow that we live on, have lots of flexibility in what we can do and have no concern about making payments if the economy were to take a dump.

Deduct NEW property taxes after you buyDeduct home insurance costsDeduct maintenance percentage, typically 10%Deduct vacancy+tenant nonperformance percentage(we recommend 5% for Class A, 10% Class B, 20% Class C, good luck with Class D)Deduct whatever dollar/percentage of cashflow you wantNow, what you have left over is the amount for debt service.Enter it into a mortgage calculator, with current interest rate for an investment property, to determine your maximum mortgage amount.Divide the mortgage amount by either 75% or 80%, depending on the required down payment percentage - this is your tentative price to offer.If the property needs repairs, you'll want to deduct 110%-120% of the estimated repairs from this amount.Be sure to also research the ARV and make sure it's 10-20% higher than your tentative purchase price.As long as the ARV checks out, this is the purchase price to offer.It is probably significantly below the asking price.

You are right about the risk that comes with the holding period but in my opinion sometimes you have to take the risk and make sure the profit that you generate is higher than the costs that you paid by holding the deal for a specific amount of time.

The property will be sold upon completion.Rate:  12.05%Term:  13 months interest onlyARV:  $648,000Loan Amount:  $433,000Processing Fees:  $15,361.64 (3 pts plus processing fees)Escrow Charges:  $3,130.90Insurance/taxes:  $1,722.82Construction Holdback:  $498,361Cash to Close:  $84,762.36 In the OP, you said that the loan amount was $346k.

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