To get a feel for how the nationwide players structure the deals, check our www.cadre.com or similar sites that are crowd sourcing them.

One thing I'd recommend, if you haven't already done it, is to setup a keyword alert for "Chicago" and just try to get familiar with who the active players are.

Just substitute the Properties for the stage players, the Money and Strategies for the Notes, and the Plan for the overall Score, and you have REI...and it will become a new music to your ears.

I'm looking for solid players in my favorite markets.

I know there was a group before Covid that was meeting up, I would love to get to know all the players in the Erie market and grow my network. 

Many who bought Harbour loans were contacted by the Attorney General (and ones I know were required to modify the loans with lower interest rates and transfer them to traditional mortgage and note).For those that have been following, there is another suit pending against many of the bigger players like Vision, One Pine (part of home opportunities).

Basically any other areas that fit in similar profiles to these players will be great suggestions for me to dig into.

@Kyle Nield if you are in the 1-4 unit space then you can just use a mortgage broker from one of the larger national players for the cash out.

Playing poker there are signals sent to other players called "TELLS".Until you have control of a deal, don't talk, keep your cards close to yourself  and mute your comments.It's nice to be friendly, but this doesn't help when you are trying to control a deal.You need to find the owner of this estate, who is it assessed to, where are they, has it been listed in the past, is it in tax sale.

Institutional players can wait years for the market to improve.