Luckily the title agent is better at the record search than I am.Another question- the foreclosure judgement on the property DOES NOT list the second mortgage holder as a defendant.  

in 2014 the property was sold for 165k but the previous home owners just abandoned the place and left the private mortgage holder with the expenses.

However, banks do not usually recognize that and will take both loan holders accountable and then force the "innocent" ex to take the ex back to court for reimbursement for costs associated in the violation of the court order..

Can't wait to hear from some wholesalers and note holders! 

Structure their ownership as preferred holders with a return of 10% to 15%, (preferred pay out).  

Would you contact the lien holder and make an offer (but they don't own it yet) or the children and make an offer.

I believe you misunderstood my statement....aside from any alleged "conflict of interest/misrepresentation", what I said was that nothing that happens in a probate  hinders a mortgage holder from foreclosing...it's not the lender's problem, and their foreclosure is not affected by probate issues.  

for those I used to have a wire type match holder about 2 foot long. 

If there are any property holders out there needing reliable renters please let me know.

My experience has been time to start over with the new mortgage holder.