Bloody oath I do mate.It's never their fault and always yours (Ours).They rarely take any responsibility and cry victim.It's crazy to think but it's like many intentionally look for drama and deep down inside don't want success but rather problems.Someone to dislike and blame and to feel wronged by.All other personal and "at home" issues can now be blamed on this one unfortunate scenario.This "drama" per se is like food for the hungry and they need such drama in life to "survive".My apologies if my above comments sound weird as they are more so from a philosophical standpoint and just some thoughts that I have considered after 5,000+ investor intro calls and as you have mentioned, others feeling wronged by me or my company on many occasions.What a $#@% way to live IMO but I don't judge and sleep in peace.Again, I have been "wronged" by many but consider it my own fault.I also don't call them out publicly or post bad reviews, etc... 

It can be a very good market, but the why behind your choice may help us give you better advice on how to move forward.Before realtors and property managers, you really need to meet other investors so you are making a good move by trying to do that here, but it would be better if you could do it in person.

started the interest rate at 8.5% and wrote in the contract that their interest rate will change anytime my bank loan's changes (every 5 years) and will always remain 2.5 interest points above...for what it's worth...i have another under contract that hopefully will close soon..i'd be interested in hearing about this wally wrap as well bryan...what was that?

Hey @Brett RiemensniderThere are a TON of banks/credit unions that will offer as low as Prime on a heloc on your primary residence.

Sounds like the person knew what was going on with their credit report as they have filed reports in the past. 

If so, I'd consider those options first as they fit in the infinite banking concept.

I had the initial call with a PadSplit sales person, but I wanted to talk to somebody who's actually doing it to get their perspective and advice.

Personal loan for renovations How did you add value to the deal?

As mentioned, we "openly and notoriously" record the deed for the world to see so there is no hiding things from the bank (which could be construed as fraud not to mention poses many other risks for creditor liens, etc.) 

I've personally utilized private notes on three transactions and participated in another handful of negotiations with sellers on behalf of buyers in the past five years.