This thread reminds me of the song written by Vito Mastrofrancesco, Christine Bendebel, and Alberto MastrofrancescoSung by Martina McBrideYou can spend your whole life buildin'Somethin' from nothin'One storm can come and blow it all awayBuild it anywayYou can chase a dreamThat seems so out of reachAnd you know it might not ever come your wayDream it anyway[chorus:]God is great, but sometimes life ain't goodWhen I pray it doesn't always turn out like I think it shouldBut I do it anywayI do it anywayThis world's gone crazy and it's hard to believeThat tomorrow will be better than todayBelieve it anywayYou can love someone with all your heartFor all the right reasonsAnd in a moment they can choose to walk awaylove 'em anyway[chorus]You can pour your soul out singingA song you believe inThat tomorrow they'll forget you ever sangSing it anywayYeah, sing it anywayI sing, I dream, I loveAnywayyeah Of course, my investment properties are spread across thousands of miles and in ten different market zones.

Before you all hold hands and sing a happy song, let me say that I do NOT agree.

Back when family farmers were being foreclosed on, John Mellencamp wrote a song, and Willie Nelson was promoting concerts in support of family farmers.

The competition is fierce right now because quality inventory is in short supply and there are new foreign group out there that are willing to forgo the 70% rule and pay more for the property and work on a volume perspective.

I thank you very much for going into detail...Where did you guys learn about real estate?

It just has me thinking what is their reason for going down this path.

After a couple of songs, I started to feel better.

But, by creating these products, the banks made a conscious decision to forgo the collateral that provided them a safety cushion should borrowers default.

They turn on to be a huge PITA and always want something for nothing.My suggestion would be to forgo the birddogs altogether and focus more time on advertising for deals yourself.

If you read music, writing a song in B flat and trying to play in C minor presents some problems for some musicians, having to transpose, no one wants to transpose meanings while trying to consider a deal.Go to the book stores, and please stay away from guru books for now, LOL.