Whether they’ve had previous issues with these companies with regards to getting collateral materials or resolving problems, the general consensus has been, most buyers feel they’re between a rock and a hard place.On the other hand, the loans that are available for bidding have been sold at astronomical numbers.

At 80% LTV, the return is in effect 5X that return based on value.I am a fan of both stocks/index funds and RE, but I would not do RE if my return was not astronomically higher than stocks/index funds. 

I have 30+ rentals and they are all owned under my personal name because I know the risk of loss in a lawsuit is astronomically small.

My "fee's" are not astronomical, therefore I build in volume.

It will be hard to make the numbers make sense if your fourplex is too high price unless if your rents are astronomical as well.

Appreciation since this thread was started is kind of astronomical.

Years ago I rented a room from a friend who rented a house, the power bill became astronomically expensive, $800 approximately.

Some of the investors I've come across have even gone astronomically higher than 5 units and heavily pushing commercial instead of residential.

I am a strong believer in the BRRRR strategy but have found most investment properties in my area are asking astronomical cap rates; the worst part is they are missing many normal operating expenses in the setup sheet.

After 40 years in real estate I can tell you this; the number of lawsuits that are going to result from this lending of earnest money is going to be astronomical.