It's not to say deals can't be found here in Utah, they're just hard to come buy unless you want to pay through the nose. 

Wow, duh.. right in front of my nose.

I will have made a judgment.I have never had a tenant try to thumb his nose at me and work the system to stay in my property because they have pure and perfect faith that the only way I know how to deal with them is eviction, that this is the furthest extent of my ability as a rich white guy with a load of connections in the area I invest in to cause them grief in the world.

It’s hard to sell a property when you’re clenching your nose the entire time during the walk through. 

There's ALWAYS a great reason why my wife and I should put our noses to the grindstone and accumulate more and more units.

investing and no money do not go hand in hand.. also as stated above go work for free for someone .. that's a dead end street most of the time those folks will just use you and spit you out.if you want in the industry and its a big wide industry then get into it.1. become an agent and get PAID to learn get on a top producers team and get paid and mentored at same time.2. go get your lenders license and work in the mortgage industry get Paid to be in the industry.3. with your license you can go into leasing.. that's quick money and work your way up in a commercial brokerage that's were the big money is made.Investing is not for those with no money.. how many small business can U start with no money.get a job in the industry and get paid to learn.. don't let investors lead you around for free pulling on your nose ring.

Thanks @Paul, long time no see.

It sounds harsh but I would not stick my nose in his business .And absolutely don't give him money

Have read a few blog articles already and read the one about a happy relationship: point taken.But yeah, those meet and greets mentioned sounds better than having my nose in a book or computer monitor trying to figure things out, so I'll look into those soon.Again, thanks all to the welcome and glad to be here!

if you don't list back they simply wont bring you the deals.. and that is biting off your nose to spit yourself.for instance my Charleston agents I get first crack at everything off market etc.. we provide them over 150 to 200k a year in commission income just off my activity.. so who's going to get the deals..