I guess if all else fails and the tenant requests a jury trial I will deal with it using an attorney if not too expensive or pro se myself.

Is there way to avoid going thru the whole refinance proses to find out I still need PMI?

The house is worth about 500k.I'm not putting my money in this property and obviously don't see it as a money maker, BUT -the owners asked me a question to which I didn't know the answer.The 1st filed Lis Pendens a few years ago and then just stopped moving forward (Bank of America) after the owner filed a Pro Se "produce the note" defense.

I guess my original post was not really attacking the merits of the WD v. the QCD it was more to let pro se grantors (like Sarah) see that you legally shouldn't just sign a WD at a notary's office and give it to your boyfriend for consideration where there are encumbrances on the title.

Then there's the legal assistants who sell do-it-yourself/Pro Se foreclosure defense documents, BK contracts etc. 

It seemed shady to me at the time because the option contract was a one paragraph bundle of prose on an 8 1/2 x 11 sheet of paper.

If title is in an LLC or corp I suspect you won't be able to do the suit pro se and will need an atty. 

This strategy (the BRRRR strategy) is working great but its a slow proses.

I need to just quit researching and planning and reading and listening to 'guru' marketing prose, and start running ads and networking, etc., myself.

Even better with a sole beneficiary who is pro se executor with full power and in foreclosure or other financial pressure.You are looking for needles in haystacks, of course, however they do exist (and I market with my magic needle magnet).