But for the other readers in a nut shell , the elements of the fundamentals for bitcoin are as follows: store of value, programmable money and capital asset all rolled up into one value number. 

@Russell Brazil  was 100% correct when he stated that the new commish rules were going to wean out the RE herd..

@Russell Brazil definitely nailed it.

My real estate agent thinks he's nuts, but she has more experience with conventional loans than DSCR. 

As an fyi Cleveland is a tough nut to crack for out of state investors.

@Robert Lum  you bet you can troll around a site like BP read their books listen to the pod cast of those that are successful and talk about their business's.. its inspiring and motivational.but if you really want to learn the nuts and bolts you need to get in the game.the best and least expensive way to do that is to simply take a pre license course in your state.. learn the laws ( the real laws not the BS that is talk about on line).. terminology etc. then go to work with a brokerage in the aspect of Real estate that interest  you.. there you will get REAL training by those that are successful you get on a team.. you get paid as you learn.

this is where the deals are .Ones that can bite you though are higher end homes where the previous owner strips them takes every cabinet every door every light fixture basically deconstructs the inside of the houseAnd this is how rental property will look over time in many C D markets just beat to holly heck.It's really surprising (when you first start out) how people can abuse a house and what they will actually live in....It's usually either substance abuse or just a bit nuts....or the worst is when it's both.....We should get all the veteran investors on here together and write a book. 

In a nut shell, BP is helping me grow closer to my REI goals and its priced under 300 bucks.  

Quote from @Mike Shahi: @Russell Brazil thanks Russell.

Lastly; NUT-UP!