that we’ve learned in our 24 years, managing almost 700 doors across the Metro Detroit area, including almost 100 S8 leases:Class A Properties:Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, 3-5 years for positive cashflow, but you get highest relative rent & value appreciation.Vacancy Est: Historically 10%, 5% the more recent norm.Tenant Pool: Majority will have FICO scores of 680+ (roughly 5% probability of default), zero evictions in last 7 years.Class B Properties:Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, decent amount of relative rent & value appreciation.Vacancy Est: Historically 10%, 5% should be applied only if proper research done to support.Tenant Pool: Majority will have FICO scores of 620-680 (around 10% probability of default), some blemishes, but should have no evictions in last 5 yearsClass C Properties:Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, high cashflow and at the lower end of relative rent & value appreciation.

Everyone else is transaction based and walks away with the commission when the deals closed.

They are asking $375K but not getting it - so not quite $20k underwater from asking but they're offers so far are around $350k and lower.

The last few years have been great for investors/homebuyers who bought pre-con, but looking back to the few years after the 2014/15 boom, this wasn't the case, where many had actually committed to buying a property that wasn't quite worth what they signed up for closer to closing because the appraisal weren't matching the contract price, requiring a cash top-up.

It took some digging, working closely with a title company, and negotiating with multiple parties to get it resolved, but in the end, it was a great learning experience—and a successful deal!

Purchase price: $90,000 Cash invested: $55,000 Triplex in SE Cleveland (D+ neighborhood)Purchased for 90 and saw 105 for valuation. 25% down plus closing costs and unit repairs has led to about 50-60k going into the deal.

The next gentrifying neighborhoods in Chicago are: Lower West Side; Humboldt Park, Gage Park, Ashburn, South deering, Hegewisch, Garfield Ridge & West Elsdon.  

Quote from @Melanie Baldridge: Why I like investing in real estate more than 401(k)s.Both offer tax deferrals, but here's the difference:If you're making pre-tax contributions to your 401(k), then withdrawals = ordinary income tax.With real estate gains, you're paying capital gains tax (which is typically lower).Plus, RE investors get:1.

Hello @Hudson Filippi FHA does have a One Time Close construction loan that will allow you to build a home.

Very interesting closing!