Take Google alone for advertising.

any private lenders that advertises for business is a HARD MONEY LENDER ..

@Sean Pedeflous we mostly agree with @Greg Scott, the reasons properties don't rent:1) Lack of proper marketing exposure--- How many places can you advertise the property?

Do you have any marketing material that you use with your outbound or is it mostly networking and direct to specific agents advertising?

Go to Etsy and search for "rental property tracker," and you will find hundreds of nice spreadsheets to track 10-20 rentals, usually for under $10.Software has extremely helpful features like online payments, marketing syndication (click a button, and your property is advertised on multiple sites), electronic document review/signing, maintenance tracking, and owner reports.

The terms “paid advertisement” must appear on each page of any printed advertisement, or “this is a paid advertisement” must be spoken during any verbal story.A Member in good standing who wishes to display or use the RMAI logo (inclusive of certification logos) to indicate that they are an RMAI Member may do so provided that they first execute an agreement with RMAI which: (i) grants the Member a nonexclusive license to affix the RMAI logo to certain promotional material, (ii) reserves the right for RMAI to terminate the nonexclusive license granted in the agreement and to prospectively change the terms and conditions of the Agreement from time to time in RMAI ‘s own sole discretion, (iii) limits the use of the logo to the Member company’s website or other promotional materials, (iv)prohibits the transfer of property rights, trademark, or other intellectual property interests of RMAI to the Member, and (v) prohibits the Member from assigning the right or authority to use the RMAI logo to any other party.A Member shall not use the RMAI logo on company documents and/or letterhead to imply RMAI has approved or endorsed the content contained therein.CANON 5 – REPUTATION OF THE INDUSTRYAn RMAI Member shall always demonstrate its desire to protect the reputation of the industry which shall be revealed through the avoidance of impropriety, including the appearance of impropriety.Commentary:A Member shall not engage in any conduct that materially and adversely reflects on the receivables management industry.A Member should always be cognizant of the industry’s perception to the public.

It takes about $5,000 in advertising costs and 90 days of making phone calls 20 hours a week to get the first deal.

I am talking about both, cash and hard money. currently I am spending around 2-3k per month on marketing, advertising & software subscriptions.

Two months goes by (not fast service which they advertise) and I begin to receive declined credit card inquires in my mail including one even stating "no third party applicants please apply on your own" so now I'm skeptical ESPECIALLY when I'm assured by Bernie that Seek has a "GREAT relationship" with these lenders.

A real estate agent can wholesale which solves a lot of the legal issues.98% of “wholesalers” spend $5,000 in advertising and expenses without ever doing a deal before they go on to do something else.