Always paid the balances off.I do not come from money.Investing in Real estate has been a goal of mine since Jr high.

Maybe a declining principal balance lease/purchase?

If they had a fat car pmt and tons of credit cards with balances I might be inclined to say no but if just the opposite low dti I would say yes.

So, at the end of the year, it's easy enough for me to do a simple ROI calculation using my starting and ending balance sheets -- this gives me the information I need to evaluate #1 above.And, because I'm working in the business part-time and can track my hours, I can divide the increase in net-worth by the number of hours I put into the business to determine my hourly wage.

Currently own on a wrap.I hold title.The reason I am selling is I have some other big projects I am working on.There is a very well qualified buyer who has over a million in cash.They are going to basically take over my wrap position and the seller who owner financed me agreed.The way I was going to structure this is the buyer wants 3 more years on the note at 5% then cash out.I would get note balance amended as well to wipe out my cash credit from the seller that I had.Then once changes are in place simply sell to the buyer where I assign my rights and title to the property for a fee.The money I get will be substantial 6 figures.I will not have owned the property a year yet so whether I pay commission to my brokerage or have the corp for the apartment show a gain I think it will be taxed as ordinary income.The buyer is fine with this but was wondering if it should be structured to where:"I am not sure the best way to structure it, but I think the down payment needs to be part of the purchase price for tax/depreciation/refinance reasons.

From here a check and balance system - from processor (and all internal stuff checked corelogic/4506's etc) it goes to an underwriter who overlooks the file and signs off.

That's going to make it a challenge.Might well work as a sub 2, with that low mortgage balance.

It would be fun to break it down by state, by balance range, by vintage.There is a lot of imperfection iin this nichr.

We're in a balance sheet recession.

The first investor is me who I describe in the paragraph below and the second investor is someone who will put less down with the intent to acquire 4 duplexes.Keep in mind the total rent paid for both units in each duplex is $2,100.Total Fannie Mae conventional loan amount:$180,000Loan Term:30 yearsInterest rate:5.25%DP @ 25%:$45,000Closing costs @ 3%:$5,000Mortgage Monthly payment which includes property taxes:$998.84Insurance:$142.00Sewer, Water and Garbage:$104.00Average monthly expenses:$150.00Renovation and painting expenses for early 2015:$8,000Roof in 8 years:$11,000The second investor decides to go with an FHA loan so that they only have to put 3.5% as a DP.Here are the specifics.FHA Total loan amount:$180,000Loan Term:30 yearsInterest rate:5.25%DP @ 3.5%:$6,300MIP:$123.04Upfront FHA MIP:$3040.00Monthly taxes:$250.00Insurance:$142.00Sewer, Water and Garbage:$104.00Average monthly expenses per duplex:$150.00 X 4 duplexes = $600.00Monthly Mortgage payment:$1,491.00Closing costs @ 3% rolled into loan:$5,000Renovation and painting expenses for early 2015:$8,000Roof in 8 years:$11,000 per duplexTotal money required at closing for purchasing duplex using FHA loan:$14,340Using that figure, investor 2 can buy 3 duplexes and cannot afford a 4th home.That leaves investor 2 with $6980 as disposable cash.So investor 2 borrows$7360 (loan term=72 months)from Family at 8% to help buy duplex #4.Private money lender monthly expense:$110.40Investor #1 monthly cash flow per duplex:$705.16Investor #2 monthly cash flow per duplex:$244.60 X 4 duplex’s = $978.4*As you can see Investor #2 has more cash flow each month.2014Investor #1: NOI 2014 = $8,461.92Investor #2: NOI 2014 = $11,740.802015Investor #1:$8461.92 (NOI 2015) - $8000 (Code violation to paint 1 duplex for $3,000 and renovate unit #2 @ $5,000)= $461.92Investor #2: $11,740.80 (NOI 2015) - $32,000 (Code violation to paint 4 duplexes for $3,000 each and renovate unit #2 @ $5,000 each) =-$20,259.202016Investor #1: $461.92 (2015 balance) + $8,461.92 (2016 NOI) = $8,923.84 (2016 Year end Gross) Investor #2: -$20,259.20 (2015 balance) + $11,740.80 (2016 NOI) = -$8,518.40 (2016 Year end Gross)2017Investor #1: $8,923.84 (2016 balance) + $8,461.92 (2017 NOI) = $17,358.76 (2017 Year end Gross)Investor #2:$8,518.40 (2016 balance) + $11,740.80 (2017 NOI) = $3,222.40 (2017 Year end Gross)*It took 3 years for Investor #2 out of the Red.2018Investor #1: $17,358.76 (2017 balance) + $8,461.92 (2018 NOI) = $25820.68 (2018 Year end Gross)Investor #2: $3,222.40 (2017 balance) + $11,740.80 (2018 NOI) =$14963.20 (2018 Year end Gross)2019Investor #1: $25820.68 (2018 balance) + $8,461.92 (2019 NOI) = $34282.60 (2019 year end gross)Investor #2: $14963.20 (2018 balance) + $11,740.80 (2019 NOI) = $26,704.00 (2019 Year end gross)2020Investor #1: $34282.60 (2019 balance) + $8,461.92 (2020 NOI) = $42744.52 (2020 Year end gross)Investor #2:$26,704.00 (2019 balance) + $11,740.80 (2020 NOI) = $38444.80 (2020 Year end gross)2021Investor #1: $42744.52 (2020 balance) + $8,461.92 (2021 NOI) = $51206.44 (2021 Year end gross)Investor #2: $38444.80 (2020 balance) + $11,740.80 (2021 NOI) = $50185.60 (2021 Year end gross)2022This is the year the roofs need to be redone on the duplexes.The cost per duplex is $11,000.Investor #1 – Total cost for new roof on single duplex building = $11,000Investor #2 – Total costs for new roof on 4 duplex buildings - $44,000Investor #1: $51206.44 (2021 balance) + $8,461.92 (2022 NOI) - $11,000 (new roof) = $48,668.36 (2022 Year end gross)Investor #2: $50185.60 (2021 balance) + $11,740.80 (2022 NOI) - $44,000 (4 new roofs) = $17,926.40 (2022 Year end gross) After 9 years as you can see Investor #1 has $48,668.36 in savings and Investor #2 only has $17,926.40.My conclusion up to this point is that having more properties may bring in more cash flow each month at first, but expenses can wipe out those savings quickly.Eventually the cash flow from investor #1 should outpace Investor #2 as proven by the larger balance.Let me know what you think from my example.I tried to keep everything completely even between the two investors, the only difference is the way the two investors choose to spread their intitial cash.I’m personally more in favor of doing it my way.