Most PM's here charge 15-20%, most are 20, but will depend on what services they offer.

These areas not only offer reasonable purchase prices for most investors but also feature turnkey homes—either newly built or fully renovated, ready for tenants, with systems that still have 10+ years of life remaining, and property management teams in place.

Find a reliable team, offer fair pay, and keep them motivated to stick with you for future projects.That’s what I have off the top of my head.

While the market can go up or down in either investment, Real Estate is the only one of the two that offers income opportunities through rental income, that stocks don't, and can often help ride out the storm of market fluxes.Also, the Greater Phoenix market (that includes Scottsdale) historically nets 65K+ Californians per year. 

Maybe they are offering financing because no traditional lender will lend on the building. 

Or does one product typically offer better rates?

Was just about ready to pull the trigger on one of the many courses that are offered out there, particularly Pace Morby’s, but after reading several posts full of reactions to the question “should I join and pay for a course?”

Especially in a market where 95% of the buyers, and 99% of the highest offers come from owner occupants.

I'd offer to treat, but then we have to go to Chipotle - lol.

Would appreciate advice and even offers for partnership in this project maybe from someone experienced.