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All Forum Posts by: Zihan Huang

Zihan Huang has started 1 posts and replied 8 times.

Quote from @Patrick Drury:

@Zihan Huang
In terms of investing out of state as long as you build a team or your core 4 as David Green calls it which is a lender, agent, property manager, and contractor you'll be good. Here is the article an article to learn more https://www.biggerpockets.com/...


Hi Patrick, thank you for the article. I will take a read when I get the chance.

Quote from @Leo R.:

@Zihan Huang this type of question ("how should I start?") gets asked a lot, so here's my response pasted from a different thread:

There are a lot of ways to get started in RE investing, but all other things being equal, a house hack is a better strategy for a beginning investor who doesn't have much real estate experience.

Why? Because, house hacking is comparatively simple and beginner-friendly (and therefore has the highest likelihood of success), but strategies like BRRR'ing, flipping, wholesaling, out of state investing, etc. are far more complicated, and have a far higher chance of failure because they involve so many "moving pieces".

I always use this analogy: would you tell a beginner skier who has zero experience to ski a double black diamond (the most advanced terrain) for their first run? (obviously, no; a beginner could easily get themselves killed on double black diamond terrain!). Beginners should start off on beginner terrain, where they actually have a chance to learn and succeed. A house hack is like that beginner run (but BRRR'ing, wholesaling, and out-of-state investing are more like double black diamonds).

With a house hack, you can make money while learning the essential skills you'll need to succeed in RE investing (e.g.; how to analyze properties, how to find an investor-friendly agent, how to engage in a strong due diligence process, how to screen tenants, how to manage the property, how to build a network of contractors, plumbers, electricians and other pros, how to manage the book keeping of the property, etc., etc., etc. If you want to succeed in RE investing, getting this experience will be critical). So, you can make money and learn invaluable lessons with a HH, but it's typically a much lower risk strategy than BRRR'ing, flipping, out of state investing, or wholesaling--which are strategies that (when executed poorly) can easily bankrupt a beginner.

Moreover, house hacking can be very lucrative, and there are multi-millionaires who built their fortunes on repetitive house hacking! Although it's a strategy that's good for beginners, there are plenty of very experienced RE investors who continue to HH.

Plus, if you do decide to do one of the other strategies in the future (such as out of state investing), you'll be much more prepared to do it if you have a HH or two under your belt--a ton of the lessons you'll learn from a HH can be used to successfully execute an out of state investment/BRRR/etc.! ...in fact, I'd say that a HH should be a necessary prerequisite to the more advanced strategies for most folks!

Now, having said all that, house hacking isn't necessarily easy (if it were, everyone would do it)...it's just easier than the more advanced strategies...House hacking still takes significant due diligence, skill in analyzing the market and the property, time and effort to learn about tenant screening and property management, the ability to anticipate appreciation/depreciation trends, etc., etc., etc....and even with lots of skill and preparation, things will still go wrong (vacancy, plumbing leaks, bad tenants, etc.)--but that's the nature of the game. As James Brown sang: you gotta pay the cost to be the boss.

Good luck out there!


 Hello Leo, thank you for the great advice! I would actually love to start with HH, but the issue is that houses here in NYC are way too expensive and it would take 5+ years in order for me to save enough for a downpayment with my current salary. If I were to invest in another state, I probably would be able to get ready to get my first start in about 1-2 years. What is your opinion on this situation? Would it be smarter to have a later start in NYC or take the riskier route and invest out of state?

Quote from @Jerry Lucker:
Quote from @Zihan Huang:

Hello,

I am currently trying to find my intro to real estate investing. I make about 89k a year and I have about 20k saved (~10k in bank and ~10k in ETFs). The main issue for me right now is that I live in NYC and if I want to invest in a property here, I do not have enough saved up, and I do not make enough. I have also considered purchasing a property in another state (Texas) and hiring a property manager, but I am not totally sure how that works. What is your advice on how I should get started with investing in real estate? Thanks in advance :)

You may want to consider how I started over 20 years ago and am still doing today. I now own a nice portfolio of income producing real estate – virtually all of it purchased with cash by flipping mobile homes in mobile home parks. Why this unusual business model?

High profit margins! Consistently between 50% and 200%. Examples: 1) $8,000 total investment, sold for $24,000. 2) $20,000 total investment, sold for $40,000. 3) $60,000 total investment, sold for $95,000. 4) $100,000 total investment, sold for $160,000.

Most investors have no understanding of how or why this unique housing niche works the way it does. There are several unusual factors that make this possible. Mobile homes are considered personal property, not real estate. They are bought and sold quickly and easily - just like a car. Misconceptions and myths keep competition almost non-existent. The business model works the same way in 49 states (no mobiles in Hawaii).

I’m a big fan of real estate and BiggerPockets. I’m also a big fan of having a method to accumulate nice chunks of cash, rapidly, without borrowing (especially hard money).

May you have Great Fortune in your Endeavors!

Hello Jerry, I have actually a little about the mobile home market. I did not know it was that profitable! I will probably do some research on it, but I don't think a lot of mobile homes are sold here in NYC.
Quote from @Wale Lawal:
Quote from @Zihan Huang:
Quote from @Wale Lawal:

@Zihan Huang

I am a real estate agent and investor in the Houston market.

Katy, Cypress, Spring, some parts of Houston, Conroe, Tomball, Pearland are great markets.

Rent growth and appreciation is steady.

These cities tend to command quality tenants, and they have great schools.

If you're intent on buying out-of-state, be sure to heed these additional warnings. Do not buy sight unseen. Online information on a property can be out-of-date or incomplete. A local real estate agent or property owner might lie to close a sale.

Buy in an area with some similarities to the area where you live, such as climate, demographics, or property age so that you have some idea of what you're dealing with. If you have lived in a 1960s suburb of California your entire life, don't buy a Victorian in Boston.

Don't buy a high-risk property. Buy in a primarily owner-occupied neighborhood to attract tenants who are a lower economic risk, says Ryan L. Hinricher, a founding partner of the investment home sales company Investor Nation. A high-quality property will typically have less maintenance and upkeep, he notes. "These properties also rent more quickly, as they usually have modern layouts and an adequate count of bedrooms and bathrooms."

Finally, as mentioned earlier, it's crucial to build a great network of professionals to help you and to occasionally visit your property yourself.

Good luck!

Hello Wale, 

Thank you for the great advice! What are you opinion on the markets at Austin and Dallas? 

I am a real estate agent and investor in the Austin and Dallas market.

Rent growth and appreciation is steady.

These cities tend to command quality tenants, and they have great schools.

Good luck!

 Okay, I will probably start taking a look into those markets then. Thank you!

Quote from @John Mathew:

Hello Zihan! Take guidance from the following tips as you open the door to starting a real estate business:

  1. Think Through Professional Goals
  2. Conduct In-Depth Research
  3. Organize Your Finances
  4. Craft Your Business Strategy
  5. Form An LLC
  6. Plan Your Marketing
  7. Build A Website
  8. Launch Campaigns
  9. Stay On Top Of Leads
  10. Build A Support Network

    Hope these helps you :D

 Hi John,

I appreciate the tips that you have given me!

Quote from @Wale Lawal:

@Zihan Huang

I am a real estate agent and investor in the Houston market.

Katy, Cypress, Spring, some parts of Houston, Conroe, Tomball, Pearland are great markets.

Rent growth and appreciation is steady.

These cities tend to command quality tenants, and they have great schools.

If you're intent on buying out-of-state, be sure to heed these additional warnings. Do not buy sight unseen. Online information on a property can be out-of-date or incomplete. A local real estate agent or property owner might lie to close a sale.

Buy in an area with some similarities to the area where you live, such as climate, demographics, or property age so that you have some idea of what you're dealing with. If you have lived in a 1960s suburb of California your entire life, don't buy a Victorian in Boston.

Don't buy a high-risk property. Buy in a primarily owner-occupied neighborhood to attract tenants who are a lower economic risk, says Ryan L. Hinricher, a founding partner of the investment home sales company Investor Nation. A high-quality property will typically have less maintenance and upkeep, he notes. "These properties also rent more quickly, as they usually have modern layouts and an adequate count of bedrooms and bathrooms."

Finally, as mentioned earlier, it's crucial to build a great network of professionals to help you and to occasionally visit your property yourself.

Good luck!

Hello Wale, 

Thank you for the great advice! What are you opinion on the markets at Austin and Dallas? 
Quote from @Eliott Elias:

Purchase here in Austin Texas, I'll help manage the property 

Hello Eliott, I will reach out if I end up getting a property there. Thank you

Hello,

I am currently trying to find my intro to real estate investing. I make about 89k a year and I have about 20k saved (~10k in bank and ~10k in ETFs). The main issue for me right now is that I live in NYC and if I want to invest in a property here, I do not have enough saved up, and I do not make enough. I have also considered purchasing a property in another state (Texas) and hiring a property manager, but I am not totally sure how that works. What is your advice on how I should get started with investing in real estate? Thanks in advance :)