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All Forum Posts by: Zach Ryan

Zach Ryan has started 3 posts and replied 7 times.

Post: First Deal Didn't go as planned...

Zach RyanPosted
  • Warren, ME
  • Posts 7
  • Votes 0

Hello everyone! I'm new to investing and looking for a little advice with a situation that I'm in. I got my first deal it just didn't go exactly as I planned with my "business partner"....

I started pursuing investing 5 months ago. I went to a REIA group that was 2 hours away from me. I went seeking advice on the best rental markets in my state. My interests changed when the leader of the group started talking about wholesaling, he said he made over, 75k on his first wholesale and the owner gave him a car. He said if I go out and find deals if I bring them to him he would show me how to do them and they would split the profits with me fairly based on how much we each have to do. That sounded great to me! So I went out and started looking for deals. I found a bunch of dud leads that I funneled through. There is little to no inventory in my area. I finally found a potential short sale. The owner said the house wasn't listed and I didn't think to check. I gave the address to them and they couldn't use it because it was listed and because of that they told this other guy I met at the REIA to send me a I text saying that the leader of the group way saying that he should be involved in my first few deals, so he can show me what to do, he said they were still trying to figure out the best way to do things. So I said yeah no problem thinking I would just split my deals with him until I learned enough to work with the leader. I just recently found a deal in my local area that we got under contract for 50k and we sold it for 65k in 2 days. I found the buyer and I found the seller. I met with everyone and coordinated everything. The guy that sent me that text message drove 3 hours to sign the contract with the seller and set up the closing with the title company. I did everything else. They split deals 50-50 and with a bunch of other people 50-50. So I thought I was getting 50-50. Then I find out 2 days before the closing that I was going to get 25% and the guy that came down to sign the contract will be getting 25% and the owner of the REIA group will be getting 50% of the profit. I tried to be okay with it because I learned a lot from them but also on the other hand I think I deserved more than 25% on this deal. Do you think I should try and demand 50% or should I be happy with 25% for the first 3 deals? It just kindve bothered me. What would you do? I'm going in on Tuesday to negotiate how much I'm going to be getting on my future deals that I'm going to have with them. How much should I negotiate for? Am I being greedy?

Post: First Wholesale Deal Gone Wrong?

Zach RyanPosted
  • Warren, ME
  • Posts 7
  • Votes 0
Originally posted by @Karen Rittenhouse:

If they know all that then they should be ashamed about taking such advantage. That is not fair, not necessary, and not what the best seasoned investors will do to a partner.

I'm glad I posted this, I tried to last night but for some reason I wasn't able too. I am going to try and get 50% like I originally thought I was getting. They said they would mentor me and they failed to mention that they would take 75% of my deal. Thanks a lot for taking the time to help me out! 👍🏻 

Post: First Wholesale Deal Gone Wrong?

Zach RyanPosted
  • Warren, ME
  • Posts 7
  • Votes 0
Originally posted by @Karen Rittenhouse:

I have seen many REIAs fail because the leaders set them up to feed off new investors.

No, this is not fair. The deal you had with the first investors was, but not that the REIA president gets a cut. At least you should have been told from the beginning so you had an opportunity to make a decision.

There are plenty of investors who will help you; you don't need these 2. And congratulations on the success of your purchase and sale. You've obviously learned a lot very quickly.

Thanks a lot! I was very happy about it. 😊

Now I'm onto the next one. But it's good to hear everyone's opinion about my situation. I'm going in today to negotiate my percentage and to see if I still want to work with them. It's just hard to walk away from them because I watched the leader of the group make 55k just from wholesales on Friday. Im trying to decide if their knowledge is worth what they are charging me. Or if they are just being unfair. I'm all about learning, but it just rubbed me the wrong way when I found out I was getting 3500 vs 7000... Thanks for your reply! 👍🏻 

Post: First Wholesale Deal Gone Wrong?

Zach RyanPosted
  • Warren, ME
  • Posts 7
  • Votes 0

I didn't think so either. I'm going in to negotiate my percentage today. They are 2 hours away from me as well! Thanks for your reply! 

Post: First Wholesale Deal Gone Wrong?

Zach RyanPosted
  • Warren, ME
  • Posts 7
  • Votes 0
Originally posted by @Brian Garrett:

No it doesn't sound fair and no I wouldn't continue that working relationship under those terms.

Post: First Wholesale Deal Gone Wrong?

Zach RyanPosted
  • Warren, ME
  • Posts 7
  • Votes 0

So I just started wholesaling 5 months ago. I went to a REIA group and the leader of the group told me to go find a deal and he would help me do it and they would split the deal based on how much work you do. So I found a potential short sale and gave him the address, turns out it was listed and the owner didn't know and I didn't check because I thought he would know. After I gave him that address he couldn't use he said that I should have another guy involved in my deals so he can teach me what to do. So I said that's okay because I'm new and didn't want to waste his time with dumb questions. The guy I started working with told me that they do all their deals on a handshake and 50-50 splits. So I found my first wholesale deal, we put it under contract for 50k and find a buyer in 2 days for 65k, (I did almost 100% of the work on this deal) but I was okay with splitting it 50-50. I find out 2 days before the closing that I will be getting 25% and the new guy that helped me got 25% and the leader of the REIA group got 50%. Does this sound fair to you? Should I keep working with these guys?

Post: First Deal Gone Wrong?

Zach RyanPosted
  • Warren, ME
  • Posts 7
  • Votes 0

I started wholesaling about 5 months ago. I found a mentor that said to go find a deal and he would help me do it. From Day 1 I was under the impression that we were splitting deals 50-50. They talked about splitting deals 50-50 all the time. Even a guy at their office said that everything that they do is on a HD shake and they split deals 50-50. I found my first deal about 3 weeks ago and 2 days before the closing they tell me I will be getting 25% of the deal. Should I keep working with them to learn how to do it or should I find another mentor?