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All Forum Posts by: Zach Matson

Zach Matson has started 14 posts and replied 42 times.

Quote from @Arturo Herrera:

Hi @Zach Matson, I believe you spoke at a meetup I attended just before the holidays. Just wanted to hop on here and give you a shoutout. I’d also be interested in hearing more about this and other projects as I’m contemplating PML as well.  See you around 


 Yep, was that the meetup through Boise REIN or the one at the Lounge at the End of the Universe? Thanks for reaching out! I'll shoot you a message and perhaps we can grab a coffee sometime. 

Quote from @Anna Strausbaugh:

I'm definitely interested in this model and am looking for new opportunities to dip my toe in the waters of private money lending.


 Looking forward to maybe partnering or having you as an investor on something in the near future!

Post: Questions for those buying Single Family homes as rentals...

Zach MatsonPosted
  • Developer
  • Boise, ID
  • Posts 43
  • Votes 27
Quote from @Axel Meierhoefer:
Quote from @Zach Matson:

I'm a builder and investor in Boise, ID. I'm currently designing my next builds, and want to make sure they are the most appealing and can make financial sense to investors. So, I have a few questions for those of you still buying single family homes as rentals. 

1. How are you analyzing your deal and what is your goal when you are buying a SF home? Is it cashflow still(and how much?), or more for long term benefits and try to break even? 
2. What is your strategy for renting... is it LT, MT, ST, rent by the room, or something else? 

3.  How do you value new construction as opposed to an older home that may look nice, but still older? Do you take into account that you shouldn't have any mainenance for at least 10 years or not really? 

4. Is there anything that you have really wished you could find in homes that you don't see often that would increase your return or lower your expenses? 

5. When you see a listing, does it help when the remarks are tailored toward investors? Such as ease of maintenance, durability, return on investment, etc?

6. Is there any other suggestions you have for me to adapt to the current market? 

Any feedback is greatly appreciated!

A few of my ideas so far, that I'm starting to implement...

1. On houses that have small yards I have done artificial(but real looking, they've come a long way) grass. People have mixed feelings but it seems that investors love it at least. 

2. My most recent floorplan has private bathrooms attached to each bedroom. This only increases my cost by maybe 5k(added a bathroom), but seems like it will be much more marketable as a rental. But, this did eliminate a family room upstairs, so the only living space is on the main floor. 

3. HUGE primary en-suite with walk in showers and soaker tubs. 

4. Model my homes and design after $1M+ dollar homes, but they are in more up-and-coming neighborhoods. 
            - So basically they are the nicest homes in the neighborhood, but the neighborhoods are very much improving around them. 

5. I use upper mid-level finishes. Better than builder grade but not top of the line like on the high end custom homes. The result is a very upscale feel compared to other comparable price points typically. I.E. Good quality LVP flooring, Upper mid level appliances, energy efficient furnaces and tankless water heaters, semi-custom and now custom cabinets, quartz counters, and each home is professionally designed. 


Zach, I have been reading through the comments and understand that most people aim to respond to the questions you posted.

The one thing I believe you probably need to do (and can do better than most non-locals) is a detailed market analysis.

While living in San Francisco till before the start of the pandemic, many many people were talking about Boise. I saw report after report how hot a market it was and how prices shot up. It felt like there was a risk of overbuilding.

I would really analyze that point before building for investors.

For me, as a starting point I still use the 1% rule. If that works the rest of the numbers mostly work as well. The question is if that can be achieved both on the sales price of a finished house and the rent level you can expect consistently. If the house is fine but rent to make the numbers work is too high and the few who try to afford it flake out frequently, it's not good for investors.

So I am sure you know your market and suggest really analyzing how much more inventory it needs for renting in the foreseeable future.


 I would definitely say that there hasn't been an overbuilding problem in the single family space that I'm in. Possibly in multifamily in the short term, but with interest rates where they've been there haven't been any new deals started, so we may see a short term increase in vacancy rates and lower rents, before being massively undersupplied in the mid-term. For over a decade we've had vacancy rates in the 1-2% range before increasing the past year or so to around I believe 5% now. 

But as far as my niche, in single family infill... we still have a lack of supply. There are definitely buyers sitting on the sidelines due to high prices and high interest rates. 

You're right about Boise being a hot market...really in the top 5 from 2013 to 2021 consistently as far as price increases and population growth, as well as ranked places to live. We have dipped since mid 2021 in prices because many locals have been priced out of new homes. And, the 1% rule hasn't really been a thing here since probably 2015 or so, and even then it was hard to find. It's physically impossible to build to the 1% rule right now and for the past several years, unless someone is doing MT or ST rentals. 

I know that in general we need the housing in the single family space. But it's definitely good to hear from people how they analyze their plans for rentals. I guess in comparing to what my buyers have already been , to what people have been saying in here... most of my buyers have been using my new builds for ST or rent by the room and finding cash flow that way. I do have some townhomes I'll be building coming up that may make more sense for LT rentals so this is a good start to see what I can make work.

Post: Questions for those buying Single Family homes as rentals...

Zach MatsonPosted
  • Developer
  • Boise, ID
  • Posts 43
  • Votes 27
Quote from @Christie Gahan:

You get to keep some of the units?!  Cool!

I realize that you are a builder, but ... will Boise allow manufactured homes?  A one bed / 600 sq ft mobile,in my area, starts at $65k plus moving and set up.  You should be able to do the set up.

rents at $18,000 yr ...... 


 Interesting enough there are a ton of older mobile homes sprinkled throughout the city, and in particular in the high growth/redevelopment area I'm pretty excited about. But, the zoning laws are pretty restrictive for bringing in new ones. I would actually like to develop some mobile home parks in the mid-term future, but not really what I'm focused on at the moment. 

Post: Questions for those buying Single Family homes as rentals...

Zach MatsonPosted
  • Developer
  • Boise, ID
  • Posts 43
  • Votes 27
Quote from @Christie Gahan:

Why don't you just build multi family and be done with it ?  

 A LOOOOT of multi-family isn't penciling right now either, with high construction costs and high interest rates, on top of elevated land costs. And, when it comes down to it, we need the housing. Plus, I found a niche that doesn't have a lot of competition and provides great returns when I sell or allows me to keep units after I sell 80-90% of them. 

Way to dive into new construction! Sometimes you just have to go for it and figure it out! A few questions for you to start: 

1. What do you own the lots for? 

2. Do you know what other builders are building for per square foot in your area? Ideally their cost, but even if you just have what they would charge you to build you can work backwards. 

3. What size are the new construction comps that are selling for $500k-$700k.

A couple comments:

1. New construction subcontractors are mostly all different from rehab contractors, most don't do both, and if they do you may not want them to. 

2. There are a TON of nuances to get into with new construction. You are doing well to seek consultation. =)

Post: Questions for those buying Single Family homes as rentals...

Zach MatsonPosted
  • Developer
  • Boise, ID
  • Posts 43
  • Votes 27
Quote from @Thomas Dent:

you are looking to build new homes to market to investors? Most investors I work with are looking for fixers not so much new builds to rent out. Possibly if its multi family sure. Are you currently working with any agents for feedback on areas or listings. We work with many investors and could possibly help out.


 In a particular development I'm working on I'm wanting to market to investors, yes. Probably more for mid-term or short term rentals. Half of my Infill new builds have been sold to investors, not purposely, but they saw the value as opposed to buying older homes that needed some work. I think in Boise in particular it's somewhat difficult to find any rental that pencils, but new construction allows for getting the highest possible rents without investing additional cash. Obviously with interest rates it's harder for anything to pencil right now as a rental, so I'm curious to see if people have changed their criteria or lowered expectations, or how I can help them make a new build work. I haven't reached out to other agents proactively, but that's a good idea. 

I just closed on a mobile home on about 1/3 acre in a medium density residential zoning area. The mobile home and garage are basically no value besides bringing a little rent in while going through entitlements, but this looks like it's going to be an amazing deal. 

Details: 

Purchase Price: $250,000

Entitlement costs: $75,000

Infrastructure Costs: $350,000

Vertical Costs: $1,500,000

Interest Costs: $440,000 (over up to 42 months)

Sales Costs: $250,000

Total Projected Sales Price on exit: $3,400,000

Total projected profit: $535,000

This is if I take it down completely on my own and leverage 100% of the development using private money and construction loans. There is also the potential to fit another unit, which would actually decrease my construction costs (less total sq feet), but increase sales costs. The downside to that is 2 units would be 1 bedroom, so I need to contemplate and research more how those would sell. 

These are also intentionally very conservative numbers. A few factors and assumptions I've made:

1. Infrastructure costs: 50% higher than a recent development I did 2x the size. But, that was before inflation hit, and there is typically a floor to development costs no matter what size lot. 

2. Overestimated entitlement costs (hopefully, but have experience that says yes)

3. Vertical costs. Took my vertical costs on upper mid-level single family homes and increased 4% annually for 3 years. Construction should start in about 2, and townhomes will cost less psf generally than SF. I will also dial back the level of finish slightly for this product.

4. Projected sales: This was a little harder(as there were no perfect comps), but based it off of today's data on some townhomes in an area a few blocks away a little more desireable that sells for about 20% higher. Lowered price on those comps by 20%. I didn't account for any increases in sales prices as that's never a good assumption, but I also didn't account for any decrease, as this neighborhood has not been affected very much by price declines over the wider metro area in the past 1.5 years and we have mostly leveled off. 

Overall I'm super excited about this as it is the hottest redevelopment neighborhood in the Boise area. There are new construction projects everywhere (including my own 350 ft away) and some really unique products and community features, and its a block from the river and greenbelt. In the end these will be affordable compared to many other new construction products in the area. I'll keep updating my progress on this project and others! 

Post: Questions for those buying Single Family homes as rentals...

Zach MatsonPosted
  • Developer
  • Boise, ID
  • Posts 43
  • Votes 27
Quote from @Account Closed:

Hi Zach,

I loved reading your questions because it made me think.  We've never had an opportunity to purchase new construction because I'm usually looking low to mid market for fixer uppers.

There is a lot of value in not needing to do maintenance for 10 years.  I don't know what I'd pay for that comfort but as I get older, the price I'd pay goes up steadily!

I will say ramblers are in high demand here in Monroe, WA as folks age out of goofy split levels and two story homes.  I do love the idea of a dedicated bathroom for each bedroom.

If a builder here offered a pre-sale discount that made the numbers work for me, I'd love new construction.  We're seeing a ton of infill here with some R5 zoning recently updated to R25. 

I think if you came up with a super cost effective duplex or triplex design with fewer bells and whistles and a lower price point, you'd have investors beating down your door.


 That actually makes me think I should reach out to some property managers and SF owners and see what their average annual maintenance costs are. I think new construction generally prices out long term rentals, at least with the prices and interest rates where they are at, so I'll focus more on the MT to ST rental market to appease on my single family homes. I also just picked up a townhome development that may make more sense for LT. I like the idea of duplexes and tri-plexes and there haven't been many new construction of those in Boise for quite some time, just due to land costs and the single family market, but it may be a good opportunity to look into that also. 

Post: Questions for those buying Single Family homes as rentals...

Zach MatsonPosted
  • Developer
  • Boise, ID
  • Posts 43
  • Votes 27
Quote from @Bonnie Low:

There's a lot to unpack in your questions but I like that you're giving it a lot of thought. Personally, I am always buying for cash flow. That's usually hard to get with a new build, however, a lot of builders have been offering interest rate buy downs so that makes the new build product a little more (or a lot more) attractive than existing construction in some cases. I do like that new homes won't have major maintenance required for a long time. I find that a lot of new homes are built in neighborhoods that have HOAs. That's a no-go for me. It's just too much hassle, added expense and you never know when they're going to change their rules.


Yes, most planning and zoning depts require HOA's on new developments/subdivisions. I keep mine as least restrictive as possible, and so far my niche is infill development which is usually just building on land that is already within established neighborhoods with extinct HOAs. It's interesting to hear that perspective though. I've also heard investors that want HOAs as the neighborhoods typically look nicer.

But yes, I think if there is a way to make it cashflow, which is hard on any SFR right now, that's key to attracting investor interest.