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All Forum Posts by: Yitzchok Carmen

Yitzchok Carmen has started 7 posts and replied 51 times.

Quote from @Collin Hays:
Quote from @Yitzchok Carmen:
Quote from @Collin Hays:
Quote from @Steve Englehart:

I currently have two long term rentals and am looking into buying into the short term rental arena. I know there are penalties and tax implications but wanted some advice on cashing out Roth IRA or IRA to buy investment properties?


In 2013, I completely cashed out my $430,000 401K to do just this - buy two small cabins for $280,000.  After my taxes and penalties, I "lost" about $145,000.  Since then, my cabins have tripled in value - worth easily $800K or more, and have produced $696,XXX in rents.  

Don't let tax implications drive investment decisions. Ever.  


 Yes but the S&P has triples since 2013 too. Had you left your 430k that would be worth about 1.3 million today probably. Instead you traded that for 800k valued RE and 696k rents. If there is no debt service probably 30% is still going of the rent is still going to operating expenses which means that you only made about 480k or so. 480k rents + 800k property is the same 1.3million roughly. Same thing as SPY but dealing with so much more headache. No?

Might have indeed had $1.3 million and still working for the man, and a pot of $$ that I still couldn’t access without the gubmit telling me when, how, and how much. 

No thanks. I’m all done playing those games.  


Oh I agree with you if that rent will be a business income to live on vs just an unrealized gain. To add to your argument I suppose the tax implications are better with RE too bc theres a capital gains tax ceiling of 20% vs standard tax rates for IRA withdrawals that are potentially much higher. At the same time depreciation recapture is taxed at regular tax rates, not capital gain rate. So a lot of it probably depends on your bracket when you end up selling the RE or cashing out the IRA. I have actually cashed out a lot of my IRA now bc I have so much depreciation from RE that my tax bracket is very low and the taxes to pay on the IRA withdrawal are also pretty much non existent (taking aside the penalty). In short its complicated:) each situation is different

Quote from @Collin Hays:
Quote from @Steve Englehart:

I currently have two long term rentals and am looking into buying into the short term rental arena. I know there are penalties and tax implications but wanted some advice on cashing out Roth IRA or IRA to buy investment properties?


In 2013, I completely cashed out my $430,000 401K to do just this - buy two small cabins for $280,000.  After my taxes and penalties, I "lost" about $145,000.  Since then, my cabins have tripled in value - worth easily $800K or more, and have produced $696,XXX in rents.  

Don't let tax implications drive investment decisions. Ever.  


 Yes but the S&P has triples since 2013 too. Had you left your 430k that would be worth about 1.3 million today probably. Instead you traded that for 800k valued RE and 696k rents. If there is no debt service probably 30% is still going of the rent is still going to operating expenses which means that you only made about 480k or so. 480k rents + 800k property is the same 1.3million roughly. Same thing as SPY but dealing with so much more headache. No?

Quote from @Collin Hays:

Merchants rarely win chargeback disputes. I’ll fight them 100 percent, but the deck is way stacked against you. I chalk it up as the cost of doing business.

What changed:)

To be fair, the time stamp on this webcam is only 1 hour before closing. Probably wouldn't be at capacity no matter what

The new trend they started a couple years back of arbitrarily needing to raise the annual subscription fee $100 each year to "provide the best service" would fit into this also

Quote from @John Underwood:
Quote from @Frank Borzen:

We just stayed at the cabin of someone who lives in our city.

3/2 with detached garage that they turned into a theater/game room (very nice).

House has a bad drive with no view. Teeny creek running through the back yard. To access the hot tub/lower deck you had to walk through a bedroom.


He bought it from 650k in March 2021.

LIsted it for 950k in March 2022. Sold for 975k cash to someone from California.

Even the seller was saying there is no path to profits.


 And yet you still stayed there. What was the draw for you to rent it?


 Just bc he rented it doesn't mean it was a good investment for the owner! He rented it bc it was a nice place that fit his budget.... That doesnt mean the rents he paid covered the operating expenses when the owner overpaid for the property...

Quote from @Bonnie Low:
We all wish we had a crystal ball to know where the economy is headed, inflation specifically, mortgage rates, home prices, vacation spending, etc. etc. Absent that, I think we have to just rely on the fundamentals as investors: is our underwriting solid? Are our margins healthy? Do we have an exit strategy or strategies? Do we have cash reserves to weather a downturn for any unforeseen reason (pandemic, anyone??) Regardless of where it's at today, history tells us the market will be somewhere else entirely 5 years from now. My guess is that there are a lot of owners in over their heads in the STR space who didn't have solid fundamentals when they underwrote their deals. This is based on the high volume of conversations I'm seeing in STR groups from people freaking out that their summer calendars aren't yet booked, dropping their nightly rates and minimum stays, lamenting property tax increases (that they didn't factor in when purchasing), increased insurance costs and wanting to nickel and dime guests on every minor infraction. This combination sure sounds like panic to me so I wouldn't be surprised to see newly acquired STRs coming up for sale in 2022 and early 2023. Beyond that, it's just too hard to guess what will happen.

 I dont know what will be in 5 years from now. But I can say that I own 6 STRs in the smokies. If you're freaking out about the summer not being booked in  April and lowering your rates, I dont think this game is for you. If your summer dates are booked now you are too cheap.

And if you nickel and dime your guest on every infraction you definitely wont be in this game too long. That is not the way a serious STR investor plays

So that's what you're after:) You never reached out to me!

@Luke Carl Any recommendation on an electric fireplace model?

Hotel. The whole hotel stay costs less then just the cleaning fee on a 1 night stay!