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All Forum Posts by: Heshel Mangel

Heshel Mangel has started 25 posts and replied 198 times.

Post: How to choose the a market?

Heshel MangelPosted
  • Posts 208
  • Votes 90
Originally posted by @Ellie Perlman:

@William Orrock

This is what I look for when deciding which markets to invest in:

  • Population growth – A solid market is one that has population growth. Markets that have flat or negative population growth can indicate a problem, while markets that continuously have people moving into them is a sign that there will be more demand for apartments. One of the markets with the highest population growth is Dallas, TX, while the Providence, RI market has shown no significant population growth at all. Where to find information? Simply google it! For example, search “Jacksonville population” and you’ll see the trend. Focus on the last 5-10 years.
  • Job Growth – Population usually follows jobs, and a great market is one that adds many new jobs each year. I usually look for markets with an unemployment rate that is lower than the national average (4.1%). In addition to evaluating the city job growth, you need to pay attention to any major industry or employer that may be responsible for more than 25% of the market, because if the dominant industry or employer is in trouble so is your property (due to layoffs). A solid market is one that has steady job growth and a diverse economy. Where to find information? www.city-data.com and www.census.gov.
  • Rent Growth – A strong multifamily market is a market that has increasing rents. If rents are in a downward trend, then your property might suffer from declining rents as well. This is also a rule of thumb, and each investment is unique, but general speaking I try to stay away from markets that have a declining rent trend. Where to find information? www.census.gov has information on the average rent in the past several years in major cities.
  • Appreciation Potential – The lion share of the profits is made when you sell the property. This is why appreciation is key. I look at markets that have strong appreciation potential, and if property values are increasing, it is more likely that I’d be able to sell my investment at a significantly higher price than when I bought it. This is why I believe that you make money when you sell a property, not when you buy it. A word of caution, though: real estate is a cyclical business, and even markets with strong appreciation can suffer when the economy turns. A market with increasing prices is not a guarantee that you’ll make profit when you exit, but it’s a safer market to be in when you buy. Where to find information? Many large brokerage firms offer free reports that show rents and real estate prices. You can find the reports from reputable companies such as CBRE, Marcus and Millichap, Yardi Metrix, etc.
  • Landlord Friendly State – Landlord-friendly markets have a direct impact on real estate and the return of the investments. Some states, such as California, are very tenant-friendly, which means that it can take up to 9 and even 11 months to evict an unpaying tenant while, in the meantime, you pay for the mortgage and the expenses. Other states, such as Texas and Florida, are landlord-friendly and provide owners with a quick eviction process. Where to find information? Simply Google: “How long does it take to evict an unpaying tenant in …” 

 Is there a way to "save" posts on BP? @Mindy Jensen @Brandon Turner

Amazing. We have had a couple contractors that came in, that had referrals and was able to see our vision and put it on paper, but when it came down to it just didn't execute. For or reason or another the job has not been getting done. 

@Andy Zapata Congrats! Would love to see some pictures and hear about some of the numbers you are getting for the rentals, I never imagined Dayton to be a hotspot for AirBNB. 

Most intrigued by how you managed to build a team remotely that executed according to your standard. I'm in middle of a project in Cincinnati and I just can't seem to put together the right team members, specifically the contractors, to pull it together and make it happen. How did you find good, trustworthy contractors? 

@Michael Ealy Congrats! Reading about other's success is motivating and inspiring. 

My Questions: 

What did you have that was the turning point for you to turn your attention from SFH and small MF to bigger commercial buildings?

Is there anyway that someone like me; hungry, driven, and motivated to become successful in REI, can provide value to you and learn under your wings?

@Jason Malabute I do not work with Roofstock, but have used their platform and will try to answer your questions: 

1) You do not have to use their preferred lenders, you can use your own lender and Roofstock will work with them to close the deal. 

2) The sale will close with through a title company that makes sure there is nothing wrong with the title before closing. Try putting the address into Google Maps and look at the property yourself to know it actually exists ;)

3) Most properties on Roofstock have a detailed inspection report that was done in the last 3 months (I might suggest you do your own inspection anyway). If it does not, there is an inspection contingency attached to the purchase agreement. 

4) The status of the tenant is disclosed to you on the site, you can see the tenant agreement to see how long the lease is for if it is occupied (not all properties on Roofstock are pre-occupied). After signing the purchase agreement, you will be given all the details of the person who brought in the tenant and can ask them these questions as part of due diligence. 

5) Yes, you can use your own PM. 

@Aubrey Prado

Congrats! 

What is your strategy with this property? What will it rent for? What is the value of the property now that you put in $20K worth of rehab? 

Congrats! @Oleg Shalumov, it seems you are investing from OOS, I'd love to hear how you found this deal, how you are planning to finance it, and is there alot of renovations that need to be done? 

What type of things will you be looking for in DD?

Thanks and much success!

Post: My Roofstock Experience

Heshel MangelPosted
  • Posts 208
  • Votes 90

@Zach Evanish I was under the impression that the portfolios were only for accredited investors. 

Yes, I understand the type of market you cater for, and it is a great platform for those customers. I still have interest, but also recognize that it would be a starting point, not the ideal game plan though for the long term. 

The rep mentioned the BYOP to me. Where can I learn more info about those two programs? 

Post: My Roofstock Experience

Heshel MangelPosted
  • Posts 208
  • Votes 90

In case you haven't seen or read enough about Roofstock, here it goes: 

I just completed my first experience using Roofstock through the closing process, here are some of my experiences. Note: I did not close on this property.

My offer was accepted and the next day was received a call from client services to go through the next steps. As there was no inspection done on the property, I was assured that an inspection would be done and paid for by Roofstock. The rep also told me that she would introduce me to all the relevant parties (lenders, property managers, insurance brokers, and title company).

The next day, I was notified, that in fact, Roofstock would not pay for an inspection, but that there was an inspection contingency so I can pay for one and Roofstock will help schedule it and I can use their preferred inspection company. At the same time, I started to the process with Better Mortgage (Roofstock’s preferred lender) on this property (I had already received a pre-approval from them before offering on properties). I had a few questions for the rep at Better, to which I asked for the answers she gave to be emailed to me. I never got that email. That was the beginning of a frustrating experience with Better throughout the entire process.

I received the PSA to sign after a few days, and realized there was no inspection contingency, the rep at Roofstock later added the addendum to the contract. In the meantime, reps at Better Mortgage were very hard to get in contact with. They’re goal was to make it a smooth process by taking everything online, what that did was, make it harder to communicate with real people in a prompt fashion. I was made to send documents in, and answer questions to questions I had already answered and sent documents in for. The online reps were clueless as to what was going on, it would take at least 24 hours to get any response, and usually the response was incoherent and not helpful at all. All in all, they did nothing to tailor to my personal needs and made getting a mortgage a very frustrating experience. In the end, I looked into other lenders until I found a local bank that was understanding and helpful and worked to find solutions that worked for me.

In the meantime, the inspection happened, I made some requests from the seller that was passed on by Roofstock. Then an appraisal happened, and I found that there was actually an HOA fee on this property, then the title company sent more documents, that the HOA fee was higher than what was on the appraisal. All of this occurred after the due diligence period was complete, and yet I was told that the inspection period wouldn’t be extended and that I had to accept the inspection. However, I would be allowed to terminate the contract due to the HOA’s.

After Roofstock tried to persuade me to go ahead with the contract, I decided to cut it loose. My dealings with Better, and the HOA fees not being disclosed were too much for me.

In summary: My Roofstock experience with their reps was pretty smooth and consistent, however, I learnt that: (1) Don’t assume their preferred partners are trustworthy or easy to communicate with, just because they say so. As is the case with all the information they provide, do your own due diligence (2) Roofstock, generally, is the seller’s agent, so they must always work in the best interest of the seller, not you, the buyer. Remember that.

Update: After I terminated the contract, I got a phone call from my original Roofstock rep who was helping me find properties, and the Manager, @Zach Evanish to reach out and hear my thoughts and experiences and how they can be a better help in the future. I thought this was a very nice touch from the rep and Zach to hear me out and make sure they’ll do better in the future. They are processing a refund for my marketplace fee as well. 

One last comment: Roofstock strategy is not for everyone, and definitely not the ideal way to create wealth through Real Estate. That comes from buying properties under market value and adding value through renovations or other means. 

I would be interested in hearing more details, and answers to Jason's questions. I too have followed Jason's journey closely and found it to be very helpful information when dealing with Roofstock. I am in middle of writing a review myself based on my recent experience.