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All Forum Posts by: Xela Batchelder

Xela Batchelder has started 13 posts and replied 48 times.

I've been watching a lot of Anderson Business Advisors videos on YouTube, and he had mentioned while putting in an offer that you could put your name and then an "OR" and then I can't remember the exact verbiage - but it is so at closing you can change it to an LLC (so you have time to create it). I would like to put in an offer and use this to create less of a mess prior to closing if I do decide to set up an LLC, but I have rewatched a lot of his videos, and can't find where he said the verbiage one should put in the offer. Does anyone know what it is? Either what Anderson Business Advisors have said, or if you use something similar? Maybe it was something like "Name or designated entity" - is that it? (I'm not doing wholesaling, I'm buying long term for rentals, so it isn't an assignment type of situation.) Thanks for any help or advice!

Originally posted by @Darren Budahn:

@Xela Batchelder

Just look for a local lender and make sure you aren’t overpaying. All these banks that keep the loans in house will have different requirements. You may have to do some searching but these lenders do exist. Don’t try and take a deal like this to a big national bank.

 Thanks, Darren!  I've started working on that!

Originally posted by @Ryan Hill:

@Xela Batchelder sounds like a cool deal - what else are you investigating about the houses? Any idea why he's willing to part with them? Just done being a landlord? 

Don't have too much for you on the portfolio loan side of things through an institution though I just bought three houses with seller financing package. The seller asked for 20% down so we found private money (through and individual) to pay for the down payment. I would need to know more about your situation to know for sure but it seems like that would be a good option for you. Not everyone has a private money contact but you'd be surprised who you may get introduced to just by floating the idea to your circle of friends/family/colleagues. 

They have moved away, and aren't as interested in having property so far away.  I hope that is legit.  They certainly aren't in areas that the value will be going really high any time soon.  So it isn't' an equity play, but for cash flow.  (We started looking in areas where the equity would grow, but weren't getting much per door for cash flow, which is our first goal.  But we plan to mix with some houses with equity growth potential too, but this package is all about cash flow.)  

Originally posted by @Salvatore Lentini:

@Xela Batchelder - properties in that price range are difficult to finance, even bundled together. Many lenders have a $75K minimum loan amount on SFR. Even as blanket loan they like to see minimum value of $50K per SFR. Would the seller hold financing? Or a private lender? Any chance of the properties appreciating over time or are they undervalued at the price you're buying them at? A portfolio loan is just a loan that the lender holds for the life of the loan instead of selling it off to the secondary markets shortly after closing. You're looking for a blanket loan. But you'll need to find one that will do low minimums per property.

Thank you.  Yes, I had heard that terminology for bank loans, but saw a lot of BP people using it to mean what I was referencing.  But now that I also have the term "blanket loan" I am finding banks easier online (though now I also see banks also referencing blanket loans with the term "rental portfolio loans." ) So thank you for giving me that term.

There is one property over $50,000 ($80,000) that I could get a loan on, so that will lower cash out.  I will also look at private lenders, and maybe just do a Home Equity on another house we have.  Thanks for your help.

I am investigating the possibility to buy a previous landlord's local portfolio. Most of the properties are in the $30,000 -$40,000 range. While I have cash to purchase it (via HELOC and similar). I would like to finance it if possible, so I have less cash in the deal. I've heard of Portfolio Loans. How do these loans work? What are the pros and cons of this type of loan? What types of banks do these types of loans? (or any lenders I should talk to?) Are there other ways to finance this type of deal? Do I need to wait 6 months to finance these after I buy them? This is all new territory for me, so any advice (even beyond just the funding situation) is super helpful.

I'm going through something similar, so thank you to everyone for posting.  This is great information!!

Originally posted by @Dave E.:

@Xela Batchelder

I would suggest that you ask for copies of the leases now. You definitely need to see that info before you close.

I'm on it!  Thanks for the advice!

Originally posted by @Dave E.:

@Xela Batchelder

If you inherited tenants with the property, then you inherited their lease. What does their lease say about deposits? Is there a chance the person selling the property took the deposits and just isn’t passing them along to you through the sale?

Yes, from these comments, I know I'll have to make sure to get it in writing to confirm that they did not collect deposits, and maybe from the tenants too. (What do you think?)  I have not seen the leases yet, when do I ask for these?  (This is new to me!)   We haven't finished the sale process, we are still waiting for inspection.

Originally posted by @Nathan Gesner:

The best technique is to rip the bandaid. These tenants are likely below market rent, no deposit, no lease agreement, and they've been there a long time. Those are all signs that you probably have below-average renters.

Personally, I would determine market rate and then give the tenants notice that IF they want to stay, they will have to apply and meet my screening process, pay a deposit, sign the lease, and pay market rent.

I also require a detailed inspection of every unit (if you haven't already) to document the condition with pictures and/or video so you can hold them accountable from this point forward.

When do you start sorting out the new leases?  Before closing?  After closing?  One month in?


Thanks! 

Originally posted by @Anna Sagatelova:

I think it's smart you are evaluating the inherited tenants before making major moves or major commitments, but the tenants, by virtue of having been there for a number of years and having current possession, already have the upper hand here.

If these are tenants you want to keep and you can agree to a monthly rent that works for both of you, I think it's a good idea to almost treat this as a brand new lease. I don't think you'll be able to require screening of them as if they are new (check your state laws but again, they already have possession), but the lease can be a brand new lease with the security deposit covering damage from this point forward. The catch is that you have to truly painstakingly document the current condition of the property, which is MUCH harder to do with a property that's had 2+ years of "life" in it. You simply won't be able to see everything like you would in a vacant empty unit.

Overall I think it is easier on everyone to forgo the deposit at this point; if you are electing to keep them, they must be taking care of the place (I would hope...) and if they haven't wrecked the place in 2+ years, they aren't likely to start now. Monthly rent, that you keep forever, is the thing to focus on as far as payments go.

Yeah, I had planned and had already put in offers asking for spaces to be vacated (from what I learned here on Bigger Pockets), but when touring the place, the tenant's apartments were so tidy and meticulous.  Since they seemed to be caring for the place, I decided to try keeping the tenants.  I'll have to slowly raise rent on them (with one larger jump at the beginning), but they all know they are underpaying, so it won't be a surprise to them.  Thanks!