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All Forum Posts by: Will Kenner

Will Kenner has started 15 posts and replied 130 times.

Post: Corporate-tenant lease-back properties

Will Kenner
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Seattle
  • Posts 134
  • Votes 100

@Brett Peters You provide a nice example of pros and cons for both parties and at what stages in their investing/working career they are in. It definitely appears there can be win/win scenarios for both buyer and seller based on built up equity and the ease of tapping into that without adding to the balance sheet for the seller, and the benefits you outlined in the fifth paragraph for the investor. Thanks for the thorough explanation!

Post: Your Thoughts on Investing in Office Space

Will Kenner
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Seattle
  • Posts 134
  • Votes 100

@Jonathan Hayek As @Jeff Stein noted, in Commercial property, price is more so a direct reflection on occupancy, strength of leases, and therefore the NOI of the property. In this case, a mostly empty building will not generally carry as high of a premium in price, since you as the buyer would then have to put in the foot-work to value-add, build-out, and lease up the property. In the mean time, a building like that will burn cash fast, so if your reserves are not sufficient, that could prove detrimental. Things like property taxes, ground maintenance, elevator licenses and maintenance, HVAC (this is significant if the current leases are NNN vs. Gross and if there are "base years" in them. A whole other discussion can be made on that...) will all be constant costs regardless of tenancy. There are benefits to buying a blank slate however, just like in Residential when you can hand pick your tenants. In this case, you can structure great leases, easily make improvements and value-add before marketing the spaces, and turn the property into a nice cash-producing asset. If the area will be growing with the military base, then now would be the time to position yourself with such an asset and be ready for when all the supporting infrastructure starts moving in. But again, it comes down to cash reserves to stay afloat until that happens.

Post: Corporate-tenant lease-back properties

Will Kenner
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Seattle
  • Posts 134
  • Votes 100

@Evan Loader Another great point. I didn't think about it in terms of "unrestricted financing" as compared to re-financing through a commercial bank or opening an LOC against it. Given the significant difference in underwriting (more daunting) for commercial loans as compared to residential, strategies to avoid going through it would definitely be worth while.

Post: Corporate-tenant lease-back properties

Will Kenner
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Seattle
  • Posts 134
  • Votes 100

@Cason Acor Great points, thank you. Selling the property indeed gives instant cash for the investor/business owner/corporation to re-deploy elsewhere. All the while they are able to keep their current business going as a continuing source of cash flow, and as their main core focus.  

Post: Corporate-tenant lease-back properties

Will Kenner
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Seattle
  • Posts 134
  • Votes 100

@Michael Moikeha Makes sense, having liquidity is key and the best way to hedge against trouble! 

Post: Corporate-tenant lease-back properties

Will Kenner
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Seattle
  • Posts 134
  • Votes 100

In the commercial arena I've been seeing many listings for corporate-owed properties with lease-backs. I'm curious why a corporation would want to sell-off their property and loose control of both their rent and an appreciating asset on their books? As a buyer, it's tempting as you have a well established tenant with corporate backing, and a NNN lease. But something about it almost seems like a sucker's bet. If the property is so valuable, why wouldn't the corporation hold on to it? Granted as with any property purchase there are many variables to consider that would make a good deal vs. a bad deal (solvency of the corporation, strength of the lease, remaining term, renewal options, ease of re-purposing / placing new tenant, etc). However I'm curious to hear the 10,000 ft view on this asset class from fellow BPers.

Post: Looking for contacts in Spokane WA (Mead specifically)

Will Kenner
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Seattle
  • Posts 134
  • Votes 100

Following.....

@Jacob Mack I'd be interested in connecting and discussing opportunities in the eastern half of the state. 

Post: Wholesaling Commercial Industrial

Will Kenner
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Seattle
  • Posts 134
  • Votes 100

@Zach Kirkton From my experience in commercial real estate, there are two main factors that you want to consider when determining a properties value: the strength of the leases, and how easy would it be to place a new tenant. 

Regarding the leases, long-term (5-15yr) leases are best to minimize tenant turn-over (with commercial it can take longer to fill vacancies with businesses as it does with a residential tenant). There should be ample time remaining on the lease at time of purchase. Does the current tenant have options for renewal, and are there rent bumps? And most of all is the lease NNN. This ties directly into what you can expect your NOI to be, give you protection against rising property taxes, utility costs, and repairs since the tenants will be responsible for those costs in a NNN lease. If the current leases are modified-gross or gross-leases, then you as the owner will be responsible for all those costs and need to adjust your rental rate accordingly.

For tenant replacement, the more specialized/specific use the property is (former supermarket, movie theater, manufacturing) the longer it will take to fill with a new tenant. In contrast, if the property can easily accommodate a wide variety of tenant business with little reconfiguration, this will make filling vacancies easy. For example if it's an industrial space with loading docks, built-in machines, and large open floor plan used for a very specific purpose, once that tenant leaves the space is really only ideal for whatever type of business was operating. In order for another business type to come in, it would require significant remodeling if it's not a similar manufacturing business. Also along those lines, be aware of any potential ground contamination that you may be liable for if it's an industrial property. This is most important so be sure to heavily research oil tanks, prior uses for anything automotive, dumping, processing, etc. 

However, if it's a property that isn't highly specific to any particular use, and the structure can ideally become an empty shell, these can easily be converted for retail, medical/dental, professional office, learning center/daycare, and the like. When a tenant leaves, the configuration they leave it in has the highest chance of being suitable for the next tenant with minimal construction. Or if it can be cleared into an empty shell, it's easy to put up partitioning walls and potentially convert the property from a one tenant building into a two or three tenant building, diversifying your income streams, and drastically enhancing your property valuation. This is the most powerful element of commercial real estate - minor changes in tenants and rents has a significant effect on the property's cap rate valuation among other metrics. 

Lastly, for comps with commercial properties, it's a little bit more tricky than with residential, since each property has its unique uses. Start with determining what the going commercial rental rate/SF is for the area with currently available properties, are they typically NNN, modified-net, or gross leases, current vacancies with other surrounding commercial properties, and if there are other similar-use properties in the area. If there are no other commercial spaces like it in the area, and not a lot of available space, that builds intrinsic value to the property and can mean strong leasing. If the property can be easily converted into another unmet use in the area, that's a great value-add potential.

Hope this helps a little!  

Post: When to get a lien release?

Will Kenner
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Seattle
  • Posts 134
  • Votes 100

@Wayne Brooks Thanks for the input and recommendations.

After sifting through the RCW's (codes for Washington State) I was able to narrow down all the needed lien information, statutes, and forms for contractor/subcontractor/supplier lien releases through the Labor & Industries website. 

L&I Home -> Licensing & Permits -> Contractors -> Problems with a Contractor 

Post: Seattle/Bremerton Rentals: Dead On Arrival?

Will Kenner
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Seattle
  • Posts 134
  • Votes 100

@Tiffany Royal

Always frustrating hearing crickets on a listing...... 

Doing a quick lookup of Bremerton on Rentometer, the average rent for a 2/1 is $1,363 with the 75th percentile being $1,517. This is based on a sample size of 187 units, so high confidence in the comps. Therefore I think you may be priced a bit high.