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All Forum Posts by: William Vreeland

William Vreeland has started 4 posts and replied 8 times.

Post: Section 8 Indianapolis

William VreelandPosted
  • Beverly Hills
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 4

I've been speaking with brokers and property managers in Indianapolis and hearing mixed reviews about Section 8. Some have mentioned issues with the Indianapolis Housing Authority, including delays in payments and cases where landlords with new tenants haven't been paid since January 2024.

Do any local investors have insights or experiences with this? I'd appreciate hearing about the process, any challenges, or tips for navigating Section 8 in the area. Thank you!

Post: Contractor / Property Manager Recommendations

William VreelandPosted
  • Beverly Hills
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 4

Hello BiggerPockets Community,
I'm seeking recommendations for reliable contractors and experienced property managers in Indianapolis. 

Contractors: Skilled in rehabbing distressed single-family properties efficiently and cost-effectively. 

Property Managers: Experienced with Section 8 tenants and well-versed in tenant screening, compliance, and maximizing property performance

If you've worked with someone you trust, l'd greatly appreciate any referrals or advice. Thank you!

Post: Knoxville vs. Indianapolis

William VreelandPosted
  • Beverly Hills
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 4
Quote from @Vivienne Affat:
Quote from @William Vreeland:

I'm planning to BRRRR single-family homes, but I can't decide between Knoxville and Indianapolis. I live in Southern California, have family in Tennessee (Nashville), and real estate friends in Indianapolis. I will be purchasing the properties in cash, likely from mortgage or tax deed/lien auction. Looking to connect with local investors in each market and discuss the pros/cons. Thoughts?Both Knoxville and Indianapolis have their advantages. Knoxville offers proximity to family in Nashville and a growing market, which could enhance your investment's long-term value. Indianapolis, with its established investor network and potential for higher cash flow, might provide more immediate returns. Consider visiting both areas to get a feel for the local markets and connect with investors. Analyze each city's rental demand, property prices, and your personal goals to make the best choice. Good luck!

Both Knoxville and Indianapolis have their advantages. Knoxville offers proximity to family in Nashville and a growing market, which could enhance your investment's long-term value. Indianapolis, with its established investor network and potential for higher cash flow, might provide more immediate returns. Consider visiting both areas to get a feel for the local markets and connect with investors. Analyze each city's rental demand, property prices, and your personal goals to make the best choice. Good luck!





 Thank you!

Post: Knoxville vs. Indianapolis

William VreelandPosted
  • Beverly Hills
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 4
Quote from @Andrew Hogan:

Disclaimer: I'm probably biased because I've lived in Indianapolis for the last 5 years :)

If you're set on BRRRR, I'd recommend higher-quality neighborhoods in suburbs of Indy like Zionsville, Carmel, Fishers, Noblesville -- they tend to attract higher-quality residents have less crime, and have less surprises than some of the 60-100 yr old homes inside the I-465 loop.

@William Vreeland


 Thank you for the information!

Post: Knoxville vs. Indianapolis

William VreelandPosted
  • Beverly Hills
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 4
Quote from @Travis Timmons:

Single family BRRRRs from the other side of the country may be the highest risk strategy outside of long distance flips. I'm not saying that it cannot be done, but man, you're signing up for a ride. 

Both of those markets are great. All indicators point in the right direction. My tiebreaker is always "Where would I rather live?" if I'm choosing one market/property vs another. Most of real estate comes down to finding places that people with options want to live and deploying a well thought out strategy. 


I've considered this, but would prefer to invest in a market with more landlord-friendly laws & a lower barrier to entry. Would you recommend starting with a flip closer to home to get familiar with the process before diving into the long-distance BRRRR? Do you think the risk of a long-distance BRRRR in cash at a lower barrier to entry outweighs the risk of a leveraged flip locally? I know this is market and deal-specific, but what are your thoughts generally?

Thank you for the response, Travis!

Post: Knoxville vs. Indianapolis

William VreelandPosted
  • Beverly Hills
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 4
Quote from @Nicholas L.:

@William Vreeland

setting aside the specific market for a moment, do you have a plan to execute every step of a BRRRR? it's difficult from the get go. you have to find an off market deal that is distressed but not too distressed, buy it and close on it, have a contractor that you trust lined up to rehab it, oversee the rehab to be sure it stays on track, get it rent ready and then rented out, and then / in parallel refinance.

how will you execute those steps in any market?  what more specific questions do you have?  auctions will be a difficult way to acquire properties as a brand new investor.


Yes, I've got ~10 property managers and ~10 agents (looking at on-market deals as well) I'm speaking / spoken with drummed up through Google / Biggerpockets in each location. I've got a list of questions I'm running through each and asking for advice on various neighborhoods within each city. I'm also asking for contractor, CPA, insurance, and legal references from the property managers and will speak with / cross-reference them before going forward with one. I plan to speak with them in person when I visit Indianapolis/Knoxville before purchasing my first property. 

Is there something you'd recommend doing differently? 

Was your first real estate purchase out of state?

What makes auctions a difficult way to acquire properties as a brand-new investor? Having to purchase them without getting the complete picture of the potential issues or something else? 

Thank you for the help, Nicholas!

Post: Knoxville vs. Indianapolis

William VreelandPosted
  • Beverly Hills
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 4

I'm planning to BRRRR single-family homes, but I can't decide between Knoxville and Indianapolis. I live in Southern California, have family in Tennessee (Nashville), and real estate friends in Indianapolis. I will be purchasing the properties in cash, likely from mortgage or tax deed/lien auction. Looking to connect with local investors in each market and discuss the pros/cons. Thoughts?

Post: Knoxville vs. Indianapolis

William VreelandPosted
  • Beverly Hills
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 4

I'm planning to BRRRR single-family homes, but I can't decide between Knoxville and Indianapolis. I live in Southern California, have family in Tennessee (Nashville), and real estate friends in Indianapolis. I will be purchasing the properties in cash, likely from mortgage or tax deed/lien auction. Looking to connect with local investors in each market and discuss the pros/cons. Thoughts?