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All Forum Posts by: William Silva

William Silva has started 9 posts and replied 47 times.

Post: Need Advice in Florida

William SilvaPosted
  • Posts 51
  • Votes 31
Quote from @Kerry Baird:

@William Silva

Saving up for down payment and 6 months' reserves for each property I own became onerous. DTI also become an issue. DSCR avoids both of those. Interest rates are not the driver for me.


Got it, how much are you putting down with DSCR?

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Quote from @William Silva:
Quote from @Steve K.:
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Dennis,

first and foremost, I pray nothing happens to your property.

You're wrong about pricings going up after a natural disaster. In fact, homeowners insurance will continue to climb because of the risk Tampa faces.
If damage or destruction happens in Tampa, demand will not rise as a result. In fact, people are more likely to sell and move elsewhere if they are overwhelmed with the damages. This will cause more supply and less demand = lower prices.
Of course, none of us have a crystal ball, but that is just my two cents for economics 101 :)

This is incorrect in my experience. Due to a reduction in supply (properties destroyed or rendered unlivable) and an increase in demand (from those displaced by having their properties destroyed or rendered unlivable), home prices and especially rents actually tend to go up immediately after natural disasters.

This is what we saw here after the big floods we had in 2013 and the wildfires we had in 2021, both of which destroyed many homes and rendered many others unlivable. It takes a long time for properties to be rebuilt due to material and labor constraints, permitting issues, flood maps being redrawn based on which areas actually flooded and which didn’t, etc. Some properties also cant be rebuilt so supply is limited while demand increases for a few years. Not everyone can just pack up and leave to a different state: people have jobs, families, etc. and many want to stay in the same school district for their kids. After losing everything most people don’t have the resources to just leave and start over somewhere new. They often have no choice but to stay and rebuild with insurance money.

 When insurance companies face big payouts for natural disasters, it affects the rates of all of their policy holders not just those in the affected areas although high-risk areas are obviously affected more.

As a side note, Floridas current insurance issues are mostly caused by other factors besides the increase in severity and frequency of natural disasters however (roofing scams and no caps on lawyers fees for claims, both results of bad government policy that resulted in most insurance companies leaving the state and the remaining ones raising rates to account for having to pay for all of the roofing scams and absurdly high attorney fees on simple claims). 

 Hey Steve,

Thanks for that incredible insight on the Tampa market!


 I'm sensing sarcasm, so here is a study that supports my points, specific for the Tampa area. It was published last year in the Journal of Environmental Economics and Management: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S00950...  Researchers analyzed years of property data in Florida and found that after a hurricane hits, home prices rise and wealthier buyers move in. 

“Basically, the hurricane destroys part of the housing stock,” said Yanjun Liao, an economist... “And so there is less housing supply on the market, which ups the price.”

"The population turnover typical after storms can cause a “gentrifying effect”" Liao said. "In the long run, rebuilding efforts boost both home values and rent costs, which can prompt “changes in sort of the social fabric of the community.”"

Of course this is a broad trend and not an absolute rule. Some places may be condemned and lose value due to being unable to rebuild. Whole historic neighborhoods may be wiped out and lose the charm and character that made them attractive before. Certain areas may be rezoned, flood zones redrawn etc. and property values can go up or down depending on if the changes are favorable or not so the effect on pricing can be hyper-local. The OP asked specifically about functional homes not in the flood zone and historical data shows that this type of property usually goes up in value after a hurricane. 

Perhaps unprecedented back to back hurricanes will mean that all bets are off and the demand metrics will change moving forward... But generally speaking based on historical data, after hurricanes the overall supply is reduced while demand is increased, which creates higher pricing. 


 I actually wasn't being sarcastic. I respect and learn from my elders and actually appreciated your initial post, appreciated your second post even more

Quote from @Steve K.:
Quote from @William Silva:

Dennis,

first and foremost, I pray nothing happens to your property.

You're wrong about pricings going up after a natural disaster. In fact, homeowners insurance will continue to climb because of the risk Tampa faces.
If damage or destruction happens in Tampa, demand will not rise as a result. In fact, people are more likely to sell and move elsewhere if they are overwhelmed with the damages. This will cause more supply and less demand = lower prices.
Of course, none of us have a crystal ball, but that is just my two cents for economics 101 :)

This is incorrect in my experience. Due to a reduction in supply (properties destroyed or rendered unlivable) and an increase in demand (from those displaced by having their properties destroyed or rendered unlivable), home prices and especially rents actually tend to go up immediately after natural disasters.

This is what we saw here after the big floods we had in 2013 and the wildfires we had in 2021, both of which destroyed many homes and rendered many others unlivable. It takes a long time for properties to be rebuilt due to material and labor constraints, permitting issues, flood maps being redrawn based on which areas actually flooded and which didn’t, etc. Some properties also cant be rebuilt so supply is limited while demand increases for a few years. Not everyone can just pack up and leave to a different state: people have jobs, families, etc. and many want to stay in the same school district for their kids. After losing everything most people don’t have the resources to just leave and start over somewhere new. They often have no choice but to stay and rebuild with insurance money.

 When insurance companies face big payouts for natural disasters, it affects the rates of all of their policy holders not just those in the affected areas although high-risk areas are obviously affected more.

As a side note, Floridas current insurance issues are mostly caused by other factors besides the increase in severity and frequency of natural disasters however (roofing scams and no caps on lawyers fees for claims, both results of bad government policy that resulted in most insurance companies leaving the state and the remaining ones raising rates to account for having to pay for all of the roofing scams and absurdly high attorney fees on simple claims). 

 Hey Steve,

Thanks for that incredible insight on the Tampa market!

Post: Need Advice in Florida

William SilvaPosted
  • Posts 51
  • Votes 31
Quote from @Samuel Boyd:

@William Silva Hey William! I'd highly recommend an investor friendly agent if you plan to look outside of the areas you are most familiar with (assuming Miami). 

As for if its "too late" it all depends on what type of return you're looking for! I would say it's never too late, but I'll be honest that it is becoming harder and harder to find LTR's around the Melbourne area that are cash flow positive after insurance, taxes, today's interest rates, and current prices. 

If your satisfied with breaking even +/- a couple hundred dollars I think we can certainly find you something in this area but of course your cash flow numbers depend highly on your loan type, interest rate, and percent down. 

Happy to help you run some numbers if you're curious! Let me know man and stay safe with this incoming hurricane.


 Sam,

I think I'd prefer to get in the game now, even if that means breaking even or a couple hundred dollars. That way when rates come down, I can refi and not have to deal with so many other buyers entering the market. I'd be happy to connect.

Dennis,

first and foremost, I pray nothing happens to your property.

You're wrong about pricings going up after a natural disaster. In fact, homeowners insurance will continue to climb because of the risk Tampa faces.
If damage or destruction happens in Tampa, demand will not rise as a result. In fact, people are more likely to sell and move elsewhere if they are overwhelmed with the damages. This will cause more supply and less demand = lower prices.
Of course, none of us have a crystal ball, but that is just my two cents for economics 101 :)

Quote from @Koren Lavi:
Quote from @William Silva:
Quote from @Koren Lavi:
Quote from @William Silva:
Quote from @Koren Lavi:

@William Silva

After deciding to invest out of state, I actually settled on your home state of FL. Got a SFR in the FL space coast (Melbourne) that I am LTRing. Super cheap houses compared to Denver where I'm at, and good rents. Aside from a rat problem its been pretty smooth 😂

I could not imagine STRing out of state. My local STRs require me to be VERY involved. So to make STR work out of state for me that would require a property manager. To me that expense would negate the increased profits of STR, which is the whole point of STR.

I would find a market with good median rents, and low home costs, and a location that has some indicators that would support future price growth (pop growth, job growth, large businesses/employers moving there). Florida tends to incentivize businesses (tax breaks) and individuals (no state income tax) to move there so it checked that box for me. 


 How did you decide on Space coast? was it a realtor connection? how did you find the deal? Are you actively trying to seek properties in that area? or was that one and done?


 Not actively looking for properties at the moment, this was in 2021 and we were just trying to buy up as many properties as we could while the rates were low. 

Since we had that opportunity and wanted to diversify a little outside of Denver we looked for areas that had affordable homes with good median rents. A fair amount of locations that met this criteria were in florida. From there we decided on Melbourne because of job security with the space coast. It was not a driving factor but was a deciding factor to be close to the space coast. 


 Do you mind sharing the cost of the home? down payment % and what it currently rents for? cash-flow?

Not at all I'm an open book! This was late 2021, purchase price was 270k, and put 20% down. PITI was $1440, it is now $1600. For rent we charged $2400 and have kept it the same so that we can keep the same renters over the last 3 years.

Cash flow has been really nice but we do have some maintenance/CapEx expenses like all homes have: thus far $5000 for a new condenser, $1000 for a new fridge, and $2000 for pest control.

The mortgage interest rates were very low then, so deals might not cash flow this well in the current environment, but I’m sure there are still some deals that are worth the squeeze.


 Yeah, 

I’m hearing great things about Melbourne and surrounding areas.. I’m also looking into Palm coast. Check it out and lmk what you think! Properties with your exact numbers. 
Even if a property only nets 300 a month it would be great on the appreciation and tax benefits alone. (IMO) 

Post: Need Advice in Florida

William SilvaPosted
  • Posts 51
  • Votes 31
Quote from @Kerry Baird:

Had to respond to that great first sentence!  

1. Mine have all been in the Space Coast (Melbourne, Rockledge, Melbourne Beach and Indialantic)

2. I first bought while stationed with the Air Force in England.  I contacted a title agent, and used her expertise to find an investor friendly agent, a lender who could close, insurance etc. From there, we moved to FL and I found several houses by driving around or riding my bike in the neighborhood.

3. All over the place and over a span of time. My houses are in my bio. Last one was a big STR that I bought, refinancing houses I'd held for some time to get the down payment. I have bought several with owner financing at 6% interest only. $400k and $500k on the purchases…and rented them on AirBnb.

4. I used DSCR financing, and have used the last 3 purchases as STRs.


 I knew someone had to appreciate it! 

Thank you for the insight, that was really helpful. Do you think it's too late to get into the rental game in Melbourne? Any reason why you decided on DSCR over conventional if conv would get you a better rate/terms?

Post: Need Advice in Florida

William SilvaPosted
  • Posts 51
  • Votes 31

Hello and good evening to you incredible people,

I've decided to invest in long-term investment properties in Florida. I live in Miami, I took advice from some of you knowledgeable gurus and decided not to invest out of state but instead to invest in more affordable cities in Florida. SW FL or N EAST

I have questions for those of you who have LTRs in Florida.

1. What city is your rental located?
2. How did you source the property (Realtor? Zillow?)
3. What are the numbers on the property? (Purchase price, down payment, how much does it rent for)?
4. Did you purchase it with a conventional loan or DSCR?
5. Do you recommend an investor friendly realtor in the area in which you own your investment property?

Quote from @Koren Lavi:
Quote from @William Silva:
Quote from @Koren Lavi:

@William Silva

After deciding to invest out of state, I actually settled on your home state of FL. Got a SFR in the FL space coast (Melbourne) that I am LTRing. Super cheap houses compared to Denver where I'm at, and good rents. Aside from a rat problem its been pretty smooth 😂

I could not imagine STRing out of state. My local STRs require me to be VERY involved. So to make STR work out of state for me that would require a property manager. To me that expense would negate the increased profits of STR, which is the whole point of STR.

I would find a market with good median rents, and low home costs, and a location that has some indicators that would support future price growth (pop growth, job growth, large businesses/employers moving there). Florida tends to incentivize businesses (tax breaks) and individuals (no state income tax) to move there so it checked that box for me. 


 How did you decide on Space coast? was it a realtor connection? how did you find the deal? Are you actively trying to seek properties in that area? or was that one and done?


 Not actively looking for properties at the moment, this was in 2021 and we were just trying to buy up as many properties as we could while the rates were low. 

Since we had that opportunity and wanted to diversify a little outside of Denver we looked for areas that had affordable homes with good median rents. A fair amount of locations that met this criteria were in florida. From there we decided on Melbourne because of job security with the space coast. It was not a driving factor but was a deciding factor to be close to the space coast. 


 Do you mind sharing the cost of the home? down payment % and what it currently rents for? cash-flow?

Quote from @Koren Lavi:

@William Silva

After deciding to invest out of state, I actually settled on your home state of FL. Got a SFR in the FL space coast (Melbourne) that I am LTRing. Super cheap houses compared to Denver where I'm at, and good rents. Aside from a rat problem its been pretty smooth 😂

I could not imagine STRing out of state. My local STRs require me to be VERY involved. So to make STR work out of state for me that would require a property manager. To me that expense would negate the increased profits of STR, which is the whole point of STR.

I would find a market with good median rents, and low home costs, and a location that has some indicators that would support future price growth (pop growth, job growth, large businesses/employers moving there). Florida tends to incentivize businesses (tax breaks) and individuals (no state income tax) to move there so it checked that box for me. 


 How did you decide on Space coast? was it a realtor connection? how did you find the deal? Are you actively trying to seek properties in that area? or was that one and done?