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All Forum Posts by: William Silva

William Silva has started 11 posts and replied 51 times.

@Edreco Amos

Hello,

I reside in Miami and I do agree with everyone else. You live in Tampa, you have so many areas to invest in that is more affordable than Miami. I'd make connections with realtors, join local meet ups and expand your horizon. Look into Tampa, Sarasota, Orlando. Those areas are much more affordable than Miami. You bring up a point about saturation in Tampa? Boy, if only you knew how saturated Miami really is. There are a gazillion AirBNB listings, condos are a horrible purchase right now with all the assessments going on from recent tragedies. Condos are also starting to only accept 20% down with reserves, not a good invest strategy at the moment.
I'd recommend you stay in Tampa, Sarasota, buy some SF, duplex that need some lipstick and loving, put a tenant in there, and then get a heloc and repeat. When rates climb down, you want to do a cash out refinance, pay off the heloc and use the balance to purchase your next unit. This is all easier said than done, but if it we're easy, it wouldn't be rewarding. All the best sir.

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My first duplex was a turnkey, off market property. It was nice because it had a new roof and some newer updates. I didn't have to do anything to it. And one side was already leased. I bought that one in Alabama since I already owned SFR's there.

If you are looking for cash flow, I would look at a 4-plex. A duplex is okay, but I am not seeing the cash flow that I wanted. I would recommend you look for a good neighborhood to buy a multi family in. A lot of multi family can be located in not so good areas. Although it may look good on paper, the tenant quality might not be great. And that can cost you time and money. Try to find something that is surrounded by residential homes if you can. That way you are not competing with 30 other owners for rent.


 Nice! Thanks for your feedback. 
how were you able to source that off market deal?

What part of Alabama?

Hello BP, 

I’m writing this post for all the rookies (myself included) I think it will be very helpful for anyone who is getting started. 

I invite seasoned investors to share their experience buying their first 2-4 unit properties. 
here are some questions to base your response/story

1) how did you find your first property ? Was it off-market, or on the mls?

2) if you were getting started today, and take ONE piece of information you know now, what would that be?

3) how did you decide on the specific city you chose to invest in? A lot of rookies will get stuck in analysis paralysis and get overwhelmed on what market to buy in. 

If you have anything else of value to add, please do so!  I thank you in advance for taking your time to provide us with your knowledge 

Post: Seeking 2-4 units in FL!

William SilvaPosted
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Hi BP,

I'm looking to connect with Wholesalers & Realtors in Florida.

I'm seeking Multifamily deals. I will not limit to a specific location. if the numbers make sense, I'm interested in analyzing it.

I'm particularly curious about the Tampa, Jacksonville, Palm Coast, Melbourne area.

Please DM me directly, no need to leave a comment on this section.

Extremely serious!

Post: Need Advice in Florida

William SilvaPosted
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@William Silva

Saving up for down payment and 6 months' reserves for each property I own became onerous. DTI also become an issue. DSCR avoids both of those. Interest rates are not the driver for me.


Got it, how much are you putting down with DSCR?

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Dennis,

first and foremost, I pray nothing happens to your property.

You're wrong about pricings going up after a natural disaster. In fact, homeowners insurance will continue to climb because of the risk Tampa faces.
If damage or destruction happens in Tampa, demand will not rise as a result. In fact, people are more likely to sell and move elsewhere if they are overwhelmed with the damages. This will cause more supply and less demand = lower prices.
Of course, none of us have a crystal ball, but that is just my two cents for economics 101 :)

This is incorrect in my experience. Due to a reduction in supply (properties destroyed or rendered unlivable) and an increase in demand (from those displaced by having their properties destroyed or rendered unlivable), home prices and especially rents actually tend to go up immediately after natural disasters.

This is what we saw here after the big floods we had in 2013 and the wildfires we had in 2021, both of which destroyed many homes and rendered many others unlivable. It takes a long time for properties to be rebuilt due to material and labor constraints, permitting issues, flood maps being redrawn based on which areas actually flooded and which didn’t, etc. Some properties also cant be rebuilt so supply is limited while demand increases for a few years. Not everyone can just pack up and leave to a different state: people have jobs, families, etc. and many want to stay in the same school district for their kids. After losing everything most people don’t have the resources to just leave and start over somewhere new. They often have no choice but to stay and rebuild with insurance money.

 When insurance companies face big payouts for natural disasters, it affects the rates of all of their policy holders not just those in the affected areas although high-risk areas are obviously affected more.

As a side note, Floridas current insurance issues are mostly caused by other factors besides the increase in severity and frequency of natural disasters however (roofing scams and no caps on lawyers fees for claims, both results of bad government policy that resulted in most insurance companies leaving the state and the remaining ones raising rates to account for having to pay for all of the roofing scams and absurdly high attorney fees on simple claims). 

 Hey Steve,

Thanks for that incredible insight on the Tampa market!


 I'm sensing sarcasm, so here is a study that supports my points, specific for the Tampa area. It was published last year in the Journal of Environmental Economics and Management: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S00950...  Researchers analyzed years of property data in Florida and found that after a hurricane hits, home prices rise and wealthier buyers move in. 

“Basically, the hurricane destroys part of the housing stock,” said Yanjun Liao, an economist... “And so there is less housing supply on the market, which ups the price.”

"The population turnover typical after storms can cause a “gentrifying effect”" Liao said. "In the long run, rebuilding efforts boost both home values and rent costs, which can prompt “changes in sort of the social fabric of the community.”"

Of course this is a broad trend and not an absolute rule. Some places may be condemned and lose value due to being unable to rebuild. Whole historic neighborhoods may be wiped out and lose the charm and character that made them attractive before. Certain areas may be rezoned, flood zones redrawn etc. and property values can go up or down depending on if the changes are favorable or not so the effect on pricing can be hyper-local. The OP asked specifically about functional homes not in the flood zone and historical data shows that this type of property usually goes up in value after a hurricane. 

Perhaps unprecedented back to back hurricanes will mean that all bets are off and the demand metrics will change moving forward... But generally speaking based on historical data, after hurricanes the overall supply is reduced while demand is increased, which creates higher pricing. 


 I actually wasn't being sarcastic. I respect and learn from my elders and actually appreciated your initial post, appreciated your second post even more

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Quote from @William Silva:

Dennis,

first and foremost, I pray nothing happens to your property.

You're wrong about pricings going up after a natural disaster. In fact, homeowners insurance will continue to climb because of the risk Tampa faces.
If damage or destruction happens in Tampa, demand will not rise as a result. In fact, people are more likely to sell and move elsewhere if they are overwhelmed with the damages. This will cause more supply and less demand = lower prices.
Of course, none of us have a crystal ball, but that is just my two cents for economics 101 :)

This is incorrect in my experience. Due to a reduction in supply (properties destroyed or rendered unlivable) and an increase in demand (from those displaced by having their properties destroyed or rendered unlivable), home prices and especially rents actually tend to go up immediately after natural disasters.

This is what we saw here after the big floods we had in 2013 and the wildfires we had in 2021, both of which destroyed many homes and rendered many others unlivable. It takes a long time for properties to be rebuilt due to material and labor constraints, permitting issues, flood maps being redrawn based on which areas actually flooded and which didn’t, etc. Some properties also cant be rebuilt so supply is limited while demand increases for a few years. Not everyone can just pack up and leave to a different state: people have jobs, families, etc. and many want to stay in the same school district for their kids. After losing everything most people don’t have the resources to just leave and start over somewhere new. They often have no choice but to stay and rebuild with insurance money.

 When insurance companies face big payouts for natural disasters, it affects the rates of all of their policy holders not just those in the affected areas although high-risk areas are obviously affected more.

As a side note, Floridas current insurance issues are mostly caused by other factors besides the increase in severity and frequency of natural disasters however (roofing scams and no caps on lawyers fees for claims, both results of bad government policy that resulted in most insurance companies leaving the state and the remaining ones raising rates to account for having to pay for all of the roofing scams and absurdly high attorney fees on simple claims). 

 Hey Steve,

Thanks for that incredible insight on the Tampa market!

Post: Need Advice in Florida

William SilvaPosted
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@William Silva Hey William! I'd highly recommend an investor friendly agent if you plan to look outside of the areas you are most familiar with (assuming Miami). 

As for if its "too late" it all depends on what type of return you're looking for! I would say it's never too late, but I'll be honest that it is becoming harder and harder to find LTR's around the Melbourne area that are cash flow positive after insurance, taxes, today's interest rates, and current prices. 

If your satisfied with breaking even +/- a couple hundred dollars I think we can certainly find you something in this area but of course your cash flow numbers depend highly on your loan type, interest rate, and percent down. 

Happy to help you run some numbers if you're curious! Let me know man and stay safe with this incoming hurricane.


 Sam,

I think I'd prefer to get in the game now, even if that means breaking even or a couple hundred dollars. That way when rates come down, I can refi and not have to deal with so many other buyers entering the market. I'd be happy to connect.

Dennis,

first and foremost, I pray nothing happens to your property.

You're wrong about pricings going up after a natural disaster. In fact, homeowners insurance will continue to climb because of the risk Tampa faces.
If damage or destruction happens in Tampa, demand will not rise as a result. In fact, people are more likely to sell and move elsewhere if they are overwhelmed with the damages. This will cause more supply and less demand = lower prices.
Of course, none of us have a crystal ball, but that is just my two cents for economics 101 :)

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@William Silva

After deciding to invest out of state, I actually settled on your home state of FL. Got a SFR in the FL space coast (Melbourne) that I am LTRing. Super cheap houses compared to Denver where I'm at, and good rents. Aside from a rat problem its been pretty smooth 😂

I could not imagine STRing out of state. My local STRs require me to be VERY involved. So to make STR work out of state for me that would require a property manager. To me that expense would negate the increased profits of STR, which is the whole point of STR.

I would find a market with good median rents, and low home costs, and a location that has some indicators that would support future price growth (pop growth, job growth, large businesses/employers moving there). Florida tends to incentivize businesses (tax breaks) and individuals (no state income tax) to move there so it checked that box for me. 


 How did you decide on Space coast? was it a realtor connection? how did you find the deal? Are you actively trying to seek properties in that area? or was that one and done?


 Not actively looking for properties at the moment, this was in 2021 and we were just trying to buy up as many properties as we could while the rates were low. 

Since we had that opportunity and wanted to diversify a little outside of Denver we looked for areas that had affordable homes with good median rents. A fair amount of locations that met this criteria were in florida. From there we decided on Melbourne because of job security with the space coast. It was not a driving factor but was a deciding factor to be close to the space coast. 


 Do you mind sharing the cost of the home? down payment % and what it currently rents for? cash-flow?

Not at all I'm an open book! This was late 2021, purchase price was 270k, and put 20% down. PITI was $1440, it is now $1600. For rent we charged $2400 and have kept it the same so that we can keep the same renters over the last 3 years.

Cash flow has been really nice but we do have some maintenance/CapEx expenses like all homes have: thus far $5000 for a new condenser, $1000 for a new fridge, and $2000 for pest control.

The mortgage interest rates were very low then, so deals might not cash flow this well in the current environment, but I’m sure there are still some deals that are worth the squeeze.


 Yeah, 

I’m hearing great things about Melbourne and surrounding areas.. I’m also looking into Palm coast. Check it out and lmk what you think! Properties with your exact numbers. 
Even if a property only nets 300 a month it would be great on the appreciation and tax benefits alone. (IMO)