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All Forum Posts by: William B.

William B. has started 3 posts and replied 56 times.

Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

bounced around this one.. biggest take away FIRST property HOUSE HACK 

 Jay you gotta watch the 40:00 to 55:00 portion at least, 40:00 and on was the better part but honestly it was all pretty darn good. Of course you are a seasoned fella so it may not resonate with you as much.

Originally posted by @Chad Rupp:

I would love your advice. Should I keep this rental property or should I short sell it?

I have a condo in Algonquin Illinois (3 bed, 2 bath, 1890 sq/ft) that I had bought for $265k in 2006. 
I have about 40k in equity in the property

The current comps for this property are around 185k - 195k.
Ten years later the property is still 70k - 80k underwater.
This property used to be be my main residence, but I have moved and I am now renting it.

Total expenses = $1835.84

Rent = $1700.00

I'm losing $135.84/month

With this property still underwater 70k - 80k and I am paying an extra $135.84/month. Would you keep this place or short sell it? Its been ten years since the crash and the location is still creeping back. Im not sure how to run numbers to see when, and IF, I will ever break even on this property. 

Thanks for your advice!!

See if you can legally raffle the property in Illinois, raffle can legally conflict with the state lottery but it would be worth looking into. It isn't a piece of cake to do but I think it may be a viable alternative for you to exit that property if you can do it legally. Strategize the ticket price to reflect favorable odds or enticing odds 1:1000 or 1:2500, I will buy your first ticket :)

Mindy, I am not sure I have something to say relevant to your post as it should be however, I just watched https://www.biggerpockets.com/show274 and I am enamored, dazed, fascinated, and inspired by one thing Paul Morris said which essentially is: "Hard work is something you don't enjoy doing" - Paul Morris; How is it that I haven't come to this realization until now and Paul Morris said it in such a concise and eloquent fashion? Am I being hyperbolic or does this resonate with any of you too?

Post: Very Rural Properties

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Originally posted by @Tim Y.:

Matt - Thanks for sharing that.

My goal is to find the best way (for me) to create a portfolio that produces $4,000/month in NOI. I have about $300K that I'll be able to put toward that. I'd rather just use my money and pay cash rather than mortgage, but not sure if that'll be possible to get to my goals with cash alone.

I don't mind playing the property manager role for the next decade if the properties are close enough. Right now my head is just swimming with the different strategies. One day single family sounds great to me for ____ reasons, the next day duplexs/tripliexs sounds great because ____, then the next day a small apartment building does. I just want to nail my strategy before pulling the trigger; normally I'm the opposite as I'm more of a ready, FIRE, aim person.

It sounds to me like you are not 100% on what your priority is (debt free, monthly ROI, end game) and that is why you aren't certain of what strategy you want to embrace. It sounds like you are persnickety and that can be a great thing when managing a fairly large sum of money but it seems that trait comes with a load of worry thus you are reluctant to pull the trigger until you have all your ducks in a row. Your disposition reminds me of an analogy from some military experience: Let's just say I was a warrior in the US military and had some close encounters with not so friendly folks, we trained for a multitude of scenarios constantly, rehearsed over and over, ran drills for various tasks, planned and analyzed, and even agreed on what specific preparations would be made as well as form a consensus on how to strategically maneuver and react to the mission ahead, we over-prepared often, almost to a frustrating level; nearly every single mission we conducted (99%) all the planning and preparation was seemingly useless, as soon as any action stimulus began, chaos ensued, what I like to call organized chaos on our teams part, yet it wasn't the planning and strategic efforts made prior to the mission that enabled us, we always worked through the chaos with the fundamentals, the core efficiencies we had learned and trained, it didn't matter what rehearsal and plan we chose, it was the fundamentals that afforded us the opportunity to weather the chaos and react proficiently. For you, it doesn't matter where or what you invest in as long as you follow principled measures to substantiate the quality of your investments (good cash flow, plenty of reserves, property equity, plethora of information out there for what a quality investment is). Ultimately only you can determine what the "best" way is to invest is and that will be based on what your priorities are. I would ask myself what is my end game, is it really just $4000 NOI? Why that figure what determined that number? Once you arrive at 4K NOI what then, what will you do? Also consider what your exit strategy is, is 4K NOI the number you need to retire? What is your retirement plan? What will you do with the assets at retirement? My point here is that someone like you who is seemingly analytical, needs to determine the end game and reverse plan from there, I think right now you are reverse planning from 4K NOI and that is just a number target you derived for unknown reasons and isn't far enough in your future to reverse plan from to form a long term strategy. I would focus less on the number of 4K and develop a system that allows you to embrace and stick to your desire to stay debt free, that is the one thing I can derive from your posts is that you lean toward debt free; I can guarantee that nearly everyone in real estate during the 08' fallout was wishing they were debt free or close to it, while everyone was pulling their hair out losing their retirement or everything they had because they were over leveraged, a guy who invested debt free was sleeping like a baby and scooping up discounted investments left and right. The best book I ever read put it like this "the borrower is servant to the lender"; which do you wan to be John?

Post: 20 Year Old Completes First Wholesale Deal

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At 20 years old that is amazing, regardless of age it is an incredible feat to complete your first REI deal! Great job, keep it up and refine your craft, improve as you go and keep track of all that you do via a log of some kind or database. Well done.

Post: April Investor Meetup for Portland Oregon

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Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:
Originally posted by @William B.:
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

any chance we could do these during the day say a lunch meeting.. so traffic is not such an issue and I don't like to go out at night.. IE I won't LOL...

kind of like a Rotary meeting or something..

 @Jay Hinrichs, I love this idea. I concur about traffic, it isn't worth it to be out around Portland in the evening. 

 well no one responded so I am thinking most of the local BP folks are working day jobs.. and probably cant get the time off.. for me I am not interested in evening meetings.. by 5pm I am done talking about real estate.

That is one of the reasons I like this idea, if someone shows up to a day meeting they are committed and serious about REI; either they already do REI or they are willing to commit the time to interact with those who are serious about REI, which ultimately weeds out many. No offense intended but there is a plethora of folks who love the idea of REI but will never commit to an actionable step toward it. I encourage everyone to take a step out of the "norm" and out of the "comfort zone" and commit to doing something different than your yesterday, if you aren't doing something different you are repeating your own personal history and it won't change much.

@Jay Hinrichs, more to your point, I also would rather shut off the REI endeavors at 5:00 PM and commit my time to my amazing family of 4 kids and wonderful wife. Before I know it the kids will be asking me for car keys and moving out.

Post: April Investor Meetup for Portland Oregon

William B.Posted
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Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

any chance we could do these during the day say a lunch meeting.. so traffic is not such an issue and I don't like to go out at night.. IE I won't LOL...

kind of like a Rotary meeting or something..

 @Jay Hinrichs, I love this idea. I concur about traffic, it isn't worth it to be out around Portland in the evening. 

Post: Books for negotiating

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@Nick Mauldin, I just downloaded "Never split the difference" in my Audible account. Thanks for mentioning it. 

Post: 30 gallon of water passed though winterized house

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I wouldn't just walk away from a deal when you don't have the facts as to why 30 gallons of water went through the meter. @Matt R. and @JohnHoldman make some good points however I would say there is a possibility there is not a leak. It is possible the water heater was drained and all the water lines were empty, thus it could take more than 30 gallons to "charge" all the lines, fill the toilets and fill the water heater. 50 Gallon water heater is pretty common so if the water heater was drained that would take you over the 30 gallons. Additionally, you need to know if the water company found code infractions or are they just referring to the one issue of a gate valve missing? Chances are the water company just came up to the meter and unlocked their valve, then noticed their wasn't a gate valve on the house side of the meter, after 30 gallons was sent through the meter they shut off the water to ensure they didn't flood any area of the property and determined that you need a gate valve and that translated to "you need a plumber to bring the property up to code" rather than saying "you are missing a gate valve on the house side of the water meter, code requires it". I recommend investigating things further, especially if the house is that new, could be just a gate valve holding you up, which you can install yourself by the way, it isn't very challenging to do (I am not a plumber so proceed at your own risk). See this through until you have the solid facts at a minimum.

Post: Networking in Salem area

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I am willing to have a discussion about any real estate investing in the I-5 corridor of Oregon and Washington. Coffee?