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All Forum Posts by: Will Dennis

Will Dennis has started 9 posts and replied 23 times.

Post: Super basic "getting started" question

Will DennisPosted
  • Beverly, NJ
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 4
Quote from @Nicholas L.:

@Will Dennis

no offense intended, but I think that while this is certainly possible, it is very unlikely, for exactly the reasons @Scott E. laid out.

you probably won't be able to get private money for your very first deal unless it's friends or family... and honestly, why would you want private money for it anyway?  private money isn't magic... you have to pay them back... which means you really need some kind of major value add play.

better approach: house hack.  refinance.  house hack again.

Why wouldn't someone want to lend on a top notch collateralized deal? And I'm not paying them back, the tenant would be; no?

Post: Super basic "getting started" question

Will DennisPosted
  • Beverly, NJ
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 4
Quote from @Scott E.:

Your idea of finding a wholesaler, buying one of their deals, and finding a private lender to fund the deal is exactly how it's done. There are other ways to find deals and other ways to fund deals, but the approach you've picked will work great.

I'll just add 2 things to keep in mind as you get ready to get started...

1. At least 9 out of 10 deals that wholesalers are marketing are garbage. Wholesalers generally overprice the deal, they overestimate the ARV, and they lock up houses that are not always the most desirable (they sit on a busy street, back up to a commercial complex, etc). I still buy deals from wholesalers to this day, I actually just picked another one up a few weeks ago. But you need to do your own due diligence on their "deals"

2. Finding a private lender to fund the deal will be easier said than done, mainly because you're a beginner. Just keep that in mind as you go into this. Don't let it get you down if you have a hard time finding funding. It gets easier as you do more deals.

Thank you Scott!! Fortunately I do know how to run comps so as long as the repair estimates are close I would hope I'll know if I come across a deal or a dud. Great tip though. I think you're right about the hardest part which is getting anyone to lend to me when I haven't done any deals yet. Hopefully if I find a deal that's rock solid I'll pledge that as the collateral and they'll be so fixated on that they won't even remember I'm there lol

Post: Super basic "getting started" question

Will DennisPosted
  • Beverly, NJ
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 4
Quote from @Nathan Gesner:

Go to NETWORK at the top of your screen and you can search for other investors and investment groups in your area. You can also check meetup.com or search facebook for real estate investment groups, clubs, or meetings in your area.

Thank you Nathan that is a very helpful reminder!!

Post: Super basic "getting started" question

Will DennisPosted
  • Beverly, NJ
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 4
Quote from @Alex Breshears:

Hi Will!

Where to start is a very popular, yet personal questions, so I'm glad you are looking for advice about this.

I'm going to take a different approach than most and say you actually need to stop and do some work before you even start the real estate journey. Here are a few considerations you should be looking at even before you start.

1. What are your personal goals? (don't just answer financial freedom, everyone wants that. In reality they generally want something else that financial freedom allows them to do). I suggest asking yourself "why" 5 times to get to the root of the desire to invest. For example: I want to invest in real estate. Why? I want monthly cash flow so I can leave my job. Why? Because I want to spend more time with family? Why? My parents were always home and available to me as a kid, so I want my children to have that same experience. etc etc etc. When you can see a picture of your why, write that down!

2. Think about that real root goal. What does it look like? How much time will you have to spend on other endeavors if you hit that goal. Buying 20 single family homes to be rentals sounds amazing, but only if that is your goal. Personally I'll never own long term rentals, but that's just me. Tried it, hated it, got the tshirt, not going back. In this section you are really trying to think about WHAT you enjoy doing, WHEN do you enjoy doing it, what is your lifestyle going to be when you hit that goal. There is no point in trying to invest as a GP multifamily syndicator if you really don't like the multifamily space, and don't want to sit in on weekly GP calls for asset management updates.

3. Once you have the goal, your time commitments, think about what else you bring to the table rather than money. Believe it or not, money is the easy part. Commitment, consistency and follow through is the hard part. What do you bring to real estate investing? Do you have a construction background? Have you done project management? Are you a structural engineer? Are you good with people? Do you have a brokers license? Do you love working with Excel analyzing data and making graphs? There are a lot of things you COULD bring to the table, but also realize do you enjoy those things and how much time will those things take up in your life.

4. NOW you are ready to explore the options in real estate investing. You can narrow down the buffet of choices pretty easily by eliminating options that purely just don't fit your strengths, goals or time commitment. Don't focus on your limitations and what you can't do right now. Ask your brain how can I do this, instead of shutting down your thought process with a declarative statement of " I can't do this" and then you fill in all the reasons why. Come with an inquisitive open mind, and you will find a way. You will also attract other people that exhibit those qualities, and building that team of people that all have the same goals is amazing! You don't have to go it alone!

I bring this up because when you start out it is really easy to end up with shiny object syndrome where everything looks amazing! It is also very easy to just go with the flow and do what you know - so fix and flips or rentals. There are a lot of other ways to invest in real estate without doing those two things, if they don't suit your goals, lifestyle, strengths and personality.

I hope that helps!

Thanks Alex! What an informative and well written reply! That was very helpful!!! I see you're in the Hampton Roads market. Do you happen to know Scott Jelinek?

Post: Super basic "getting started" question

Will DennisPosted
  • Beverly, NJ
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 4
Quote from @Taylor L.:

It does not need to be more complicated than that. Meeting those people doesn't cost you anything except admission to the event & your time.

Thanks Taylor!

Post: Super basic "getting started" question

Will DennisPosted
  • Beverly, NJ
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 4

Hi everyone! My name is Will. I've been interested in real estate investing for several years now but haven't pulled the trigger on yet due to paralysis analysis. 

Just to keep things as basic as possible on my first deal, is there anything to stop me from simply going to a local REIA meeting, networking with a wholesaler to scoop up a deal they want to market, and then networking with a private lender to fund the deal as my initial steps? Does it need to be any more complicated than that? Does anyone have any tips, cautionary measures, and/or words of wisdom on this approach?

Post: Will technology ever phase out individual wholesalers?

Will DennisPosted
  • Beverly, NJ
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 4

Hi everyone,

I'm curious to hear your thoughts on the following question, which I'm going to keep very short and to the point: Do you think that with the advent of sites like Zillow and the like making people virtual offers on their homes, individual wholesalers could become extinct? Looking forward to hearing everyone's thoughts!

Will

Post: Do I have to actually hire them?

Will DennisPosted
  • Beverly, NJ
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 4
Originally posted by @Nick Rutkowski:
Originally posted by @Will Dennis:

Hi guys! Hopefully simple question. If I have a couple friends help me cold call for deals, do I have to have a business entity and officially hire them? 

I'm not a lawyer or an accountant. How many hours are these guys putting in for you and how much are you paying them? 

Hi Nick, I'm not paying them anything yet because I wanted to figure this out first. Was planning to pay them either commission, or per call plus commission. It seems like such a simple question but I honestly don't know the answer.

Post: Do I have to actually hire them?

Will DennisPosted
  • Beverly, NJ
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 4

Hi guys! Hopefully simple question. If I have a couple friends help me cold call for deals, do I have to have a business entity and officially hire them? 

Post: Foreclosure Options in ListSource??

Will DennisPosted
  • Beverly, NJ
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 4

Hi guys! I have a quick question. I'm on ListSource customizing a list, and under the Foreclosure tab it's giving me the option to select either pre-foreclosures, pending auction sales, and bank owned.

I'm a newbie wholesaler and am working towards my first deal. I don't want to select the bank-owned option as it seems a bit complex for starting out, but between the pre-foreclosure and pending auction sale option, which should I select (or which would you select) and why? Should I not select 'any' of the foreclosure options- which I would think would include all of them by default? Should I use another list generation service entirely?

Thanks in advance for the help!

Will Dennis