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All Forum Posts by: Wesley Thompson

Wesley Thompson has started 23 posts and replied 67 times.

Post: Chattanooga Duplex - Closed!

Wesley ThompsonPosted
  • Investor
  • North Potomac, MD
  • Posts 67
  • Votes 54

Investment Info:

Small multi-family (2-4 units) buy & hold investment in Chattanooga.

Purchase price: $110,000
Cash invested: $33,852

Closed 09/23/2021- Tenant occupied duplex with each unit currently renting for $650/mo. Property does need renovations but most will not be completed until units are vacated. 16% CoC, Return on Equity 25%

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

First True Investment Property - wanted to get my feet wet

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

MLS / Agent

How did you finance this deal?

Conventional

Lessons learned? Challenges?

See my post in the STARTING FORUM....

Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

Agent - Adrienne Green, Keller Williams
Lender - Gabe Whitmer, First Bank
Prop. Manager - Ashley Cross, Whitewater Property Management
REI Concierge - Coaching / Mentorship, Networking
Active Duty Passive Income - Education, Mastermind, Motivation

Post: What I learned on my first investment property (so far) Part 1...

Wesley ThompsonPosted
  • Investor
  • North Potomac, MD
  • Posts 67
  • Votes 54

Yesterday I closed on my first true investment property. I have another which was a primary home, so I don't count it. This one was purchased with the sole intention of being a cash flowing investment property. Having bought houses before I thought I was prepared for the process. For the most part, I was. But the conditions surrounding this acquisition were a lot different than the two homes I had purchased in the past. 

Being military and stationed overseas created several issues to work through. While nothing was insurmountable, I can relate to how the situations could prevent other new investors from moving forward. Especially if they're overseas like me.  

1) Mindset and Trust

These were undoubtedly the two MOST important things I had to deal with going through the process. I had to let go of any fear that I had. Ok, I didn't let it go. But rather than let it control me, I listened to it. Fear isn't a bad thing, while lack of fear can be more dangerous. I kept telling myself no matter what issue arose, I would either find a way around it or the deal would die. If the deal died, it wasn't the right deal for me at this point and time. I've always been a big believer that everyone is where they're supposed to be doing whatever they're doing at any given point. If this deal turns out to be a homerun, great! If it doesn't, it's a learning point. I've failed before, I'm not afraid to fail again.

I had to put complete faith in a group of strangers I had never personally met before and systems I knew weren't completely reliable. If you spend enough time in the military, especially deployed, you become very good at knowing how to trust strangers. If you've ever had to call for artillery, or air support, relied on quick actionable intelligence, or even sometimes getting critical administrative paperwork done; you've had to rely on strangers. You hope they're the best at their jobs because sometimes it's your life in the balance. While I wouldn't be happy losing an earnest money deposit or ending up in a bad investment, comparatively that's not a lot compared to other complete strangers I have relied on. 

My agent, lender, property manager were all strangers to me. They already had a leg up on other options because my mentors introduced me to them. I knew my mentors wouldn't have made the connections if they didn't think I was a client worthy of their time. I had to trust (and leverage) the knowledge and experience of my team throughout the process. They always responded promptly, made time for calls, and didn't hesitate to question any thoughts I had. I always tried to let them know they were empowered to make as many calls for me as possible. I didn't want to micromanage them. I loathe that style, and I couldn't do it from another hemisphere if I tried. As I continued to network in my market with wholesalers, other real estate professionals and investors I would always ask them who I should reach out to for help investing in the area while not being present there. They all said the same people. I knew I was in good hands. 

2) Power of Attorney - Going into this deal I knew it would have to be done. I met an individual through a military investing network several months ago as I started down this journey, his name is Austin Clark. Austin and I met online haphazardly in this group and just started talking various things investing. He has his own YouTube channel where he talks about investing and various other financial things. I reached out to him and told him what I thought he is doing is really fantastic and I wished I'd had his knowledge when I was a younger Soldier. We became fast friends and message back and forth almost daily now. He agreed to step up and handle the closing for me and I was completely comfortable with him doing it since he had more experience with real estate investing than I do. We've still never met in person, but we've already been discussing starting our own company....

The process of a Power of Attorney while overseas is frustration simplified. I'm not on a base, so the only notary available is at the Embassy. This normally isn't an issue, but in the times of COVID it can be. Plus, there's no draft document to be used. In the past I've always been able to head over the JAG office (they're the military legal folks) and get a POA pretty quickly. General or specific, it could be done fairly quick. What I didn't know, it's different sometimes when dealing with a house. The title company wants you to use one they generate. Not a problem, but when you're closing in 30 days and they have to send it to you, get notarized, and return on time; well there's a lot that can go wrong. You have to trust the postal system which wasn't the best before COVID and I put them slightly behind an 88' Chevy Caprice with 200k miles on it in terms of reliability these days. The POA arrived the day before the original closing date.

3) Banks - I was never as frustrated during any other part of this as I was anytime I had to deal with my bank. They wouldn't let me do a wire transfer for the closing. In order to do it, I had to show up in person at a branch and initiate the transfer ( at least the first time). No matter how long I had been a customer, the fact I was serving overseas, or leaving a nasty remark on their Facebook page would change that. They were able to come up with a solution that I could add the title co. to my online bill pay and they would send a check, even overnight it for a fee. I'll never understand why they wouldn't allow a $30,000 wire transfer out of the account, but they were ok with me telling them online to write a check from the same account. Needless to say, I'll find another bank after this. 

This is where I am going to leave off on Part 1. I was thinking about getting a bit more into the specific details or situation with the property itself but those are more technical aspects than the abstract parts about this deal. The process also left me with tons of questions - mainly about why in todays digital age can literally every document for a property purchase be digital except for the closing documents? Why will a bank mail a check but not initiate a wire transfer? Why is it with all the technology we have, does buying a property at a distance still require archaic processes? I'm sure there's a lot of legalese behind a lot of the questions, but at the end of the day if a doctor can connect to robot in another hemisphere to conduct a vital surgery - there's no reason buying a property should involve this many moving pieces. 

Until next time friends....

Post: Fort Gordon, Ga Townhome

Wesley ThompsonPosted
  • Investor
  • North Potomac, MD
  • Posts 67
  • Votes 54

@Justin Melendez there's one a few doors down under contract for $160k. It definitely looks nicer than mine, but at least I know with a little polish it could potentially be valued around $165-170 likely. 

Post: Fort Gordon, Ga Townhome

Wesley ThompsonPosted
  • Investor
  • North Potomac, MD
  • Posts 67
  • Votes 54

@John Teachout it's crazy how quickly the area has expanded and added so much to the area in such a short amount of time. It was great when I was there but I heard the traffic is getting really bad especially around post, which isn't surprising

Post: VA Commercial Property Loan (aka...the Unicorn)

Wesley ThompsonPosted
  • Investor
  • North Potomac, MD
  • Posts 67
  • Votes 54

Greetings! I have heard about the possibility of two individuals using their VA entitlement to purchase a commercial property together (8-plex). However, there seems to be very few people, if any, who have successfully navigated this situation. Since it's lager than 4 units, it's a commercial property and loan. Since VA loans are residential mortgage backed securities, a commercial loan can't be utilized. So there appears to be this infinity loop of it can be allowed, while at the same time, it can't be done. So if anyone know how this can be accomplished (or have actually pulled it off) I would be fascinated to hear how!

Post: Memberships/Services worth paying for as a newbie?

Wesley ThompsonPosted
  • Investor
  • North Potomac, MD
  • Posts 67
  • Votes 54

@James Ohliger it was blind luck honestly. My wife saw a post on FB about a company assisting Americans serving overseas invest in real estate. So I checked out the company, listened to a few of their podcasts (had already decided on a market) found out one of them is very intimate with the market I want to invest in, so I went with them. Should close my first deal in the market tomorrow and my core team was everyone they recommended. 

If you want to find a mentor in your market (if you live in it) look online for REI Association meetups and attend them. Talk to people, and make your pitch about how you are looking for a coach or mentor. If you have value you can bring to the table in some way, I'm sure someone will assist you.

Post: Memberships/Services worth paying for as a newbie?

Wesley ThompsonPosted
  • Investor
  • North Potomac, MD
  • Posts 67
  • Votes 54

I have paid coaches, a couple paid masterminds and online courses, and a BP pro membership. I'm also a rookie investor and here's my take.

1) BP pro is probably the best all around for tools, networking, and education (books and masterminds) plus their podcasts are free and are worth following

2) The paid course and mastermind is good for me, because that's how I learn best. I'm not a fan of reading so condensing everything into an online class under 60 min I can access anywhere anytime I have a connection, is the best for me. Might not be for you. But the mastermind is good because it's a small group and we're all posting and learning from our coaches which is nice.

3) Paid coaches, I did this primarily for their extensive network of contacts in the market I am in. They know the best agent, lenders, GC, insurance brokers, property managers etc - and all the ones to avoid. I didn't have to put a team together, they did it for me. Plus, since they're in my market already they know it better than I do and keep up to date on things going on there and let me know. They also double check all my analysis and challenge me directly on the decisions that I'm making and why I'm making that decision as opposed to something else. They won't let me make a bad one, but they'll still question why I'm making a good one! As I progress and they see I know what I'm doing, I'm going to start pitching them potential JV opportunities for practice, with the intent of actually pitching them on opportunities in the future too. They also have contact anywhere I'm likely to be stationed so I'll always have vetted real estate professional to leverage....

With the paid online courses and mastermind, they're lifetime access. So I always have them as a quick reference point when I need to go back and look at something....

At the end of the day though, the best way to learn - is to take action. You'll learn more by doing then by studying all day long. You can read about how to fly a plane and can explain it in depth to other people....but until you're behind the yoke, it's just wasted brain power. Best of luck!

Post: Fort Gordon, Ga Townhome

Wesley ThompsonPosted
  • Investor
  • North Potomac, MD
  • Posts 67
  • Votes 54

Investment Info:

Townhouse buy & hold investment.

Purchase price: $120,500
Cash invested: $3,500

3bd/2bth, 2-Story end unit townhome with single car garage. Former primary home, 2 miles from Fort Gordon, Ga. Rents $1200/mo.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

MLS in 2007

How did you finance this deal?

VA Loan

Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

Agent and PM - Brenda Dansby, ReMax Evans, Ga
Lender - Freedom Mortgage

Post: Question From a 19yr old RS Investor

Wesley ThompsonPosted
  • Investor
  • North Potomac, MD
  • Posts 67
  • Votes 54

@Dan Guenther or house hack out rooms....tailor the approach to the market..

Post: Chattanooga Duplex Under Contract

Wesley ThompsonPosted
  • Investor
  • North Potomac, MD
  • Posts 67
  • Votes 54

@Sam Wilson thanks Sam! 

One: why did you chose Chattanooga? - My wife from East TN and most of her family and a lot of friends are in the area, so we have "some" boots on the ground we can lean of if and when necessary. We love Chattanooga, my wife did her undergrad at UT Chattanooga and we got married at the Chattanooga Choo-Choo. We plan to relocated to the area when I retire. My master plan is to be an ROTC instructors at UTC. I have alot of experience and knowledge and I want to pass that on to the next leaders and help set them up for success! That and tell them all the things only NCOs know about lol....Additionally, if we're there permanently I would consider taking over the PM aspect of our properties. But that's a long game I'm not quite committed to yet. 

Two: Why didn't the findings from the inspection scare you off as it did the others?

That's what I'm working through right now. The property realistically needs about 40-50K in renovations to bring it up to really nice standard, but it might over renovate it at that price. Additionally, I would say realistic ARV would be in the 150k range. So at $130k you're cash flowing, but the quality of the property isn't great and there's not a lot of room to work with to make it worth the effort in renovations. At $110k that's a different story. Still going to require some balance so taking the time to get the most complete and accurate picture on renovation estimates and tenant situation so make sure the deal still works.

Three: How did you become involved in the coffee business? (military, REI and coffee!? Love it

I was introduced into e-commerce around the same time as REI and it's just the niche my wife and I decided to work in. It's competitive, but scalable. So we'll see how it goes. Always looking for ways to marry the businesses together which is why I'm trying to formulate getting it into STRs. Puts great coffee in front of a lot of people relatively quickly to drive potential traffic and organic sales, builds the brand, helps out fellow REI investors and carves out a niche other companies may not be considering. That and when I'm back in the US and attend REIA / meetups I can become the "coffee guy" in a room not about coffee. People always remember the coffee guy, or the beer guy, or the whiskey guy....lol