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All Forum Posts by: Wencheur Antoin

Wencheur Antoin has started 8 posts and replied 32 times.

Post: Confusion on adding units to MR2/multi family residential

Wencheur AntoinPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 17
Quote from @Vitaliy Volpov:

Hey @Prince Martinez

I have added units to rental properties this way multiple times inside of my non-owner occupied rental properties in New York.  However, I think it's important to clarify exactly what you're suggesting here before I run through some issues that you may have.  As I understand it, this property has 3 total units in it currently.  Your plan is to occupy one of the 3 existing units and you are wondering if you can split the other two bigger units into two units each to create a total of 5 units, correct?  

If I'm understanding your plan correctly, there are a quite a few issues you are going to face with this.  First, as you mentioned in the title of your post, it's zoning and also the permitted use.  Each municipality in my state has zoning districts and has rules for how different properties can be used within those districts.  I don't know the rules in Dekalb County, GA, but I imagine they are similar.  If your property is located in a district that only permits dwellings of 3 units or fewer, then you would need to first obtain a zoning variance from the local zoning board/department. This is typically a pretty involved process as you'd have to submit an application, provide supporting documentation, and typically provide some good reasons for why they should allow you to get a variance. In New York, there is a pretty high bar that a property owner has to meet before a variance can be granted. 

Assuming that the zoning district in which this property is located allows for a property of 5 units, you would still have to get approval for the use of the property to take it from 3 units to 5 units. In the areas where I invest in New York, this involves getting approval from the planning department of the municipality (which is different than the zoning department). There may be separate rules with regard to planning. One of the biggest factors that the planning departments are concerned about in my area is having off-street parking. But, there are also other considerations and Dekalb County may have their own. Again, this is something you would have to apply for and try to persuade the municipality to allow you to do.

Assuming you got all the necessary zoning and planning approvals, you would then have to go through the building department to ensure that whatever modifications you do to the property are within their requirements and that your units are building and fire code compliant (there may be certain minimum square footage requirements, egress/ingress requirements, natural light, etc.) This would involve additional applications, possibly architectural/engineer drawings, and inspections of the construction work by the building department personnel.  In New York, there are also requirements for contractors that you use. They have to carry liability and workers compensation insurance. I don't know if this is the case in Dekalb County, but it's probably the same or similar. 

Finally, you also may have an issue with financing. All owner-occupied loans (e.g. house hack loans) offered by banks have a limit of 4 units that you can have at the property. Properties of 5 units or more can only be financed with commercial loans. Now, it's possible that you can buy the property as a 3-unit using the owner-occupied financing and then make the modifications to turn it into a 5-unit and, as long as you are making timely payments on your mortgage, the lender wouldn't know or care that you have now changed this property to something that the loan product no longer supports. But, it may be an issue and there may in fact be a clause in your loan and mortgage documents that puts you in technical default if you do this. 

Finally, once you make the modifications, you're going to want to make sure that you revise your insurance policy. The insurance you take out when you initially buy the property as a 3-unit, will no longer be viable once the property becomes a 5-unit. So, you will need to speak with your insurance broker or find a new one who can insure a property like this. There will likely be a higher cost with this upgrade.

Of course, you can (and some people do) make the modifications and turn the property into a 5-unit without getting any approvals or making sure you are doing it in compliance with the various requirements. But, you may be in a very risky place if you do it that way because if, at some point in the future, the municipalities find out that you did it, you may be prevented from renting out the new units. You may also be fined and they may even require you to turn the property back into a 3-unit at your own expense. 

Bottom line is you should look into all of the aspects, rules, and regulations involved and speak with someone (or several people) who are knowledgeable in zoning, planning, and construction conversions like this. Good luck!

Vitaliy

Hello Vitaliy, I am not the one asking the question but I want to swing by and congratulate you for taking your time to give a such insightful answer.

Post: A pleasure to be here and connect with you

Wencheur AntoinPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 17
Quote from @Benjamin Aaker:

Welcome Wencheur,

You've come to a great place for real estate investing. 


 Glad to know that, and thank you for taking your time to reply.
Where are you currently investing Benjamin?

Post: Looking to Join a Wholesaling Company!

Wencheur AntoinPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 17
Quote from @John O'Leary:

I know a few in Atlanta. Shoot me a DM

Hello John, Hope my message finds you well!

I am currently based in The DR and into real estate. I am moving to Georgia at the beginning of march for the latest. I am looking forward to continue with my real estate career and investing is what I want to do, would you mind us connecting and interchange a few messages?

Post: Looking to Join a Wholesaling Company!

Wencheur AntoinPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 17
Quote from @Bryant Brislin:

Hi Ade, I'm based in California.  Would be great to connect if you are open to it.


 Hello Bryant, Hope my message finds you well!
I am currently based on The DR and into real estate. I am moving to Georgia at the beginning of march for the latest. I am looking forward to continue with my real estate career and Wholesaling is part of my strategy to mainly when starting, would you mind us connecting and interchange a few messages?

Post: A pleasure to be here and connect with you

Wencheur AntoinPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 17
Quote from @Logan Laperriere:

Hi Wencheur, 

Welcome to the BP Forum! 


 Hi Logan,

Thank you!

Post: A pleasure to be here and connect with you

Wencheur AntoinPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 17
Quote from @Lateefah Mathews:

Hi, @Wencheur Antoin Welcome aboard! I'm an Atlanta agent and would love to connect, and give you a grand tour :) 


 Thank You Lateefah, it is greatly appreciated, we will stay in touch.

Post: A pleasure to be here and connect with you

Wencheur AntoinPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 17

Hey simon, thank you for taking your time to react, Definitely that is what I am doing right now, I already connect to a few of wonderful souls.
Thank you for your kind words, they are greatly appreciated.

Are you GA based?

Post: A pleasure to be here and connect with you

Wencheur AntoinPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 17

Hello everyone! I hope my message finds you all well.

I am Wencheur, currently in the Dominican Republic, involved in real estate. I assist friends in development projects. Due to the pursuit of family stability, with a growing child and a desire to build connections in the neighborhood, we will be moving to Georgia in the beginning of March for the latest.

I am excited about continuing my real estate career in Georgia, not only as an agent but also as an investor. Feel free to reach out, connect, and chat!

Best regards,
Wencheur

Post: A pleasure to be here and connect with you

Wencheur AntoinPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 17

Hello everyone! I hope my message finds you well.

I am Wencheur, currently in the Dominican Republic, involved in real estate. I assist friends in development projects. Due to the pursuit of family stability, with a growing child and a desire to build connections in the neighborhood, we will be moving to Georgia in the beginning of March for the latest.

I am excited about continuing my real estate career in Georgia, not only as an agent but also as an investor. Feel free to reach out, connect, and chat!

Best regards,
Wencheur

Post: A pleasure to be here and connect with you

Wencheur AntoinPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 17

Hello everyone! I hope my message finds you well.

I am Wencheur, currently in the Dominican Republic, involved in real estate. I assist friends in development projects. Due to the pursuit of family stability, with a growing child and a desire to build connections in the neighborhood, we will be moving to Georgia in the beginning of March.

I am excited about continuing my real estate career in Georgia, not only as an agent but also as an investor. Feel free to reach out, connect, and chat!

Best regards,
Wencheur