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Post: Creative ways to raise $40k?

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Quote from @Christine Bellish:
Quote from @Dan H.:
Quote from @Justus Angan:
Quote from @Nathan Gesner:
When you say $700 cash flow, do you mean $700 after paying mortgage, taxes, and insurance? Or are you including some set-aside for maintenance, vacancy, capex, PM, etc?
You can ask friends or relatives. You'll be surprised how many people you know that have money socked away, particularly after all the "free" cash our government has given out the past two years. The danger is that you typically don't know how they are as a business partner. If things go south, you could lose money and the relationship. Can you pick up an extra shift? Sell something? Deliver for Door Dash? Network with other investors at a meetup and partner with someone?
$700 after mortgage, taxes, insurance. Did not include maintenance, vacancy, etc.
I would rather not ask friends or family as I’ve learned the hard way. I own a digital marketing + business consultancy but also employed as a marketing director/business growth strategist...and with a family (wife + 7 kids) I don’t have time to spare with all my responsibilities.
Looking into some creative financing right now. Thanks for the response!
>with a family (wife + 7 kids) I don’t have time to spare with all my responsibilities.
This concerns me more than that you are capital limited. Owning Buy and Hold residential rentals are not passive even with the use of a property manager (PM). PMs need to be managed. Managing properties without use of a professional PM requires setting up processes, dealing with tenants and contractors, staying current on the various rules and regulations.
Given the "don't have time to spare" I highly recommend the use of a professional PM. Staying aware of the various always changing rules takes time and is important. Failing to keep current on the various rules can cost you a lot of money. I see posts regularly on BP that to paraphrase, " I Fu[ked Up and how do I fix this mess I created it".
I suggest you look for a more passive investment. If you want to be in RE maybe a syndication, REIT, NNN, etc.
Good luck
Good recommendation about looking for a more truly passive investment! A lot of people learn the hard way, and want a level of control, but aren't prepared for the actual work it takes to make an investment successful and manage a property properly, especially with little to no experience.
How did you start in real estate investing? I'm thinking the majority of folks here on BP also started with little to no experience...or do you believe people just wake up with experience in this?
"prepared for the actual work it takes..." - from what I've learned...you must crawl before you walk, and you must walk before you run. Wanting to actually crawl/walk through this is time well spent and also gives experience. I've got to start somewhere right? Lol.
Management hinges on integrity and zero pride. An inexperienced person, who has integrity, will do better than an experienced person with little integrity and full of pride...in any industry.
I intend to approach being an investor and a landlord in a very different way. Definitely not shy to work. I love challenges.
And, I do have very passive investments and/or streams of income. Hard assets, digital real estate, digital assets, etc. Why not expand into real estate?
Post: Creative ways to raise $40k?

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Quote from @Dan H.:
Quote from @Justus Angan:
Quote from @Nathan Gesner:
When you say $700 cash flow, do you mean $700 after paying mortgage, taxes, and insurance? Or are you including some set-aside for maintenance, vacancy, capex, PM, etc?
You can ask friends or relatives. You'll be surprised how many people you know that have money socked away, particularly after all the "free" cash our government has given out the past two years. The danger is that you typically don't know how they are as a business partner. If things go south, you could lose money and the relationship. Can you pick up an extra shift? Sell something? Deliver for Door Dash? Network with other investors at a meetup and partner with someone?
$700 after mortgage, taxes, insurance. Did not include maintenance, vacancy, etc.
I would rather not ask friends or family as I’ve learned the hard way. I own a digital marketing + business consultancy but also employed as a marketing director/business growth strategist...and with a family (wife + 7 kids) I don’t have time to spare with all my responsibilities.
Looking into some creative financing right now. Thanks for the response!
>with a family (wife + 7 kids) I don’t have time to spare with all my responsibilities.
This concerns me more than that you are capital limited. Owning Buy and Hold residential rentals are not passive even with the use of a property manager (PM). PMs need to be managed. Managing properties without use of a professional PM requires setting up processes, dealing with tenants and contractors, staying current on the various rules and regulations.
Given the "don't have time to spare" I highly recommend the use of a professional PM. Staying aware of the various always changing rules takes time and is important. Failing to keep current on the various rules can cost you a lot of money. I see posts regularly on BP that to paraphrase, " I Fu[ked Up and how do I fix this mess I created it".
I suggest you look for a more passive investment. If you want to be in RE maybe a syndication, REIT, NNN, etc.
Good luck
Post: Creative ways to raise $40k?

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The great thing is the property already has two long term renters. I confirmed with my lender that he can use 75% of the rents as income for qualification/approval. The renters pretty much qualify me for the loan without having to really go into my income.
Post: Creative ways to raise $40k?

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Quote from @Peter Mckernan:
@Justus Angan do you have a 401K, you can tap into it as a loan up to 50% or $50,000 on it. The next option is a personal line of credit from the bank (as long as you qualify for DTI with it you are good). A couple options here and the next one would be taking that $100,000 going to do a flip, do the flip property (have margins for $40,000). Just a few quick thoughts.
I do not have a 401k that I can tap into. I have thought of getting a personal line and should qualify for that. My own primary house is about 20% of my take home, so I have room.
Also was thinking of asking the seller to finance the difference I need for the DP but also throw in a percentage of the cash flow for 2 years with a 2 year timetable to pay back the seller financed loan as well. Loan + interest + percentage.
Thank you for your response!
Post: Creative ways to raise $40k?

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Quote from @Nathan Gesner:
When you say $700 cash flow, do you mean $700 after paying mortgage, taxes, and insurance? Or are you including some set-aside for maintenance, vacancy, capex, PM, etc?
You can ask friends or relatives. You'll be surprised how many people you know that have money socked away, particularly after all the "free" cash our government has given out the past two years. The danger is that you typically don't know how they are as a business partner. If things go south, you could lose money and the relationship. Can you pick up an extra shift? Sell something? Deliver for Door Dash? Network with other investors at a meetup and partner with someone?
$700 after mortgage, taxes, insurance. Did not include maintenance, vacancy, etc.
I would rather not ask friends or family as I’ve learned the hard way. I own a digital marketing + business consultancy but also employed as a marketing director/business growth strategist...and with a family (wife + 7 kids) I don’t have time to spare with all my responsibilities.
Looking into some creative financing right now. Thanks for the response!
Post: Creative ways to raise $40k?

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Tapped into my primary home equity and have a $100k HELOC. Want to secure another $40k for DP without using my reserves. Single family property with ADU. Main house and ADU has long term renters wanting to stay. $700k PP. Cash flow would be approximately $700/mo.
Post: $150K...top places to buy free and clear?

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@Jeffrey Albaum, thank you! Will watch now.
Post: $150K...top places to buy free and clear?

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Quote from @Tim Herman:
@Justus Angan why aren't you using the power of leverage. Using some broad strokes. Assume 1% rule. monthly = .01*purchase price. 150k property brings in $1500. Assume 50% rule where half of rents go to expenses. Profit of $750 per month for paid off property. Assume you use 50k -down per property. 100k financed@ 4%= $477 per month. $750-$477=$273 profit per property*3= $819 profit. now let's project into the future. Assume 3% growth. Paid off property worth $195k, increase of 45k. Growth in 3 properties is $45*3 or $135k. Now after 10 years you owe 79k mortgage or 11k more per property or 33k total. $69 more cash flow per month. *120 months=$8280. recap paid off house grows 45k. Financed houses grow 135k plus 33k equity paydown plus $8280 more cash flow. You would be more than 100k ahead by financing.
Post: $150K...top places to buy free and clear?

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Quote from @Nate Sanow:
We would have in my market a surplus of options at, around, or just under 1% monthly rent to purchase price ratio. In fact I don’t usually tell investor buyers to go much above $200,000 as the ratio becomes skewed.
If 0.9% becomes more acceptable to you, the door becomes even more wide open.
Happy hunting!
Post: $150K...top places to buy free and clear?

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I currently live in California. Have a primary family home but looking to start diversifying into real estate. Have about $150K cash to invest. Not much you can buy free and clear out here, so looking out of state. Where are some good up and coming areas to look at?