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All Forum Posts by: Ward Conville

Ward Conville has started 7 posts and replied 45 times.

Post: What are your thoughts on buying Smaller multis 4-40?

Ward Conville
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Hattiesburg, MS
  • Posts 49
  • Votes 42

We own several in that size range, 16 units, 23, 27, 41. We manage all of these without an on site manager.  In our experience 50 units seems to be the tipping point where you may need someone on site.  The numbers are much better if you can avoid the on site manager.

Post: My daughter's most recent BRRRR deal. Step by step Breakdown

Ward Conville
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Hattiesburg, MS
  • Posts 49
  • Votes 42

Great post.  Congratulations.  We have done a few good BRRRS this year as well and I will be at the conference.  I would like to hear more about the market where you did this deal.  

Post: What books should I read?

Ward Conville
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Hattiesburg, MS
  • Posts 49
  • Votes 42
The Snowball: Warren Buffett and the Business of Life. 

7 Habits of Highly Successful People.  

Post: You Asked For It! Announcing BPCON 2021 - New Orleans!!!

Ward Conville
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Hattiesburg, MS
  • Posts 49
  • Votes 42

Joe, I am going. Looking forward to it.  

Post: 2021 BP Conference - is it set?

Ward Conville
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Hattiesburg, MS
  • Posts 49
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I thought I remembered when the 2020 conference in New Orleans was cancelled due to Covid that it was going to be rescheduled for New Orleans in fall 2021.  I have not seen anything.  Any word?  

Ward Conville

Post: Hattiesburg Mississippi Investors

Ward Conville
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Hattiesburg, MS
  • Posts 49
  • Votes 42

Sam

I would be a good resource to discuss Hattiesburg market.  We invest in multi and singles and are very familiar with the market.  Glad to discuss with you further.  

Post: Anyone heard of Corevest?

Ward Conville
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Hattiesburg, MS
  • Posts 49
  • Votes 42

I did a cash our refi with Corevest a few months ago.  They were easy to deal with and all went very well and closed relatively quickly.  So far the servicing side has been easy as well.  I would recommend them.  

Post: Hattiesburg Mississippi Investors

Ward Conville
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Hattiesburg, MS
  • Posts 49
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I do not know how I missed this thread but I did.  I actively invest in Hattiesburg, multi family and single family.  Very good market cash flow market compared to most of the areas discussed on the forums.  We have a mix of Section 8, Students and work force housing.  Demand is strong and rents have been increasing.  Lots of opportunity here.  

Post: What's your best real estate deal EVER?

Ward Conville
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Hattiesburg, MS
  • Posts 49
  • Votes 42
Bought a 100 year old home in 2016 for $14,000, complete rehab costs $85,000. All in for $99,000, sold for in 2017 for 135K, pretty good deal. Fast forward 3 years. House has foreclosed. I track down the credit union that owns it an they sell it back to me for $73,000. We spend $1,000 to clean, touch up paint and clean up the yard. Listed it for $154,000, under contract to sell next month for $150,000, should net at least $60,000. Flipped same house twice in 3 years.

Post: Creative Financing--Seeking Advice/Stories

Ward Conville
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Hattiesburg, MS
  • Posts 49
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Good afternoon,

Here are some thoughts;

1) Finding motivated sellers in an area where you do not have access to MLS and are trying to invest in. Good question. I would not typically start with a commercial realtor that you do not have any connection with. They will usually pass their good deals to larger buyer that they have experience with and know can close. In my market, which is smaller, (150K MSA) I have found that occasionally a mom and pop owner who has a complex between 12-60 units will often go to a local residential realtor that they associate as one who "specializes in investment property" to list the complex. Often times these are these are the local realtors who do Fannie Mae or FHA foreclosure listings. I have found that often a realtor who does not specialize in commercial listing will run very basic calculations to come up with a listing price. Even if they are famaliar with cap rates and roughly how to calculate NOI, they do not exclude or put below the line capital expenditures and other non regular expenses. This can result in the property being listed at a much lower price than a commercial realtor would list it. Also, I have found that they are also often not as up to speed on current cap rates and may be using number that are year or two old. If I were looking in an area I did not live in I would go to homepath.com, the Fannie Mae REO site and look at the listing in the area. I suspect that a handful of realtors, maybe only one has all of the listings. I would reach out to them and advise you are interested whenever they get a multifamily listing and they can add you to their email list.

2) There are always investors who need money. Becoming a lender is easy, the tough part is determining who to lend to, the terms, and to make sure there is enough equity to make sure you are protected. I would either attend a local REI Meeting in your area and network. It is easy to put the word out. Other option is to find out what attorney office or title company does most investor closings in your area and contact them. I do a small amount short term private lending from time to time. Yesterday a property I lent money on closed. I went by the title company to pick up my check and the attorney in the office told me if I wanted to she has 4 or 5 people with deals looking for money and would be glad to put me in touch with any or all of them.

3)Finding partners.  Agree with your thoughts. One other thought is that a private money arrangement can build some bit of trust that could lead to a partnership if all goes well.  My only thoughts are to make sure the agreement amount partners is clearly spelled out in legal documents, and everyone knows, understands and agrees as to who has what responsibilities.