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All Forum Posts by: Victor So

Victor So has started 20 posts and replied 260 times.

Post: What 57% of the landlords do?

Victor So
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 272
  • Votes 153
Quote from @Mark Ainley:

@Arthur R. van der Vant @John Warren As both operators here in Chicago I know you guys are seeing all of these scam tenants that provide a 100% fake identify which has little red flags on the surface.  We must all have a screening process and always must follow that process.

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Excellent article @Mark Ainley  ! Always providing value. Thank you! 

Post: HouseHack vs BRRRR for first time.

Victor So
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 272
  • Votes 153
Quote from @Alex Pepe:

Hi Guys,

I've spoken with an investor friendly realtor here in my area about helping me find a house hack come July when my lease ends. I currently am paying 1200/month in rent. He says I should expect to still pay around 700/month HH'ing a 4BR house. If I used FHA on around a 350K home, Id be looking at 25-30k out of pocket, to save around 6k/year.

My question:

I'm not sure there is enough margin on 6k/year to justify a HH. Maintenance/repairs could easily erase that 6k and go beyond. If I could get closer to 0-300/month in mortgage payment, then perhaps a HH has more merit to it. Otherwise I'm of the mind to save 6-12 months longer and go into a BRRRR for my first deal.

Very curious to see what other more experienced minds think.  I appreciate the time to respond to my thoughts.

 Hey @Alex Pepe looks like you got a lot of good advice on this thread already so I don’t have much to add. But I’m not sure how you got 25-30K if you were to buy a 350K with a fha loan. Fha requires 3.5% which is $12,250 on a 350K house. Closing costs will not be more than double your down payment. Also, if you can find ways to get the seller to cover your closing costs (which is what I usually do), then you’d only be bringing $12K to the closing table which isn’t bad considering you’d be saving $6K per year. 

Post: Cash Flow House Hack with MFU

Victor So
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 272
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Quote from @Matt Szablowski:

Hi BP friends,

What are your thoughts about buying a MFU house hack that initially has negative cash flow once it is occupied by tenants as long as I see possibly for cash flow in the future with refinancing for lower interest rate and completing updates that would lead to higher rent.

Background: I'm currently looking for my first house hack (and first investment) in the Chicago area with a FHA loan and 3.5% down payment. I've been searching in Jefferson Park, Albany Park, Irving Park, Portage Park, Avondale, Pilsen and University Village. Most of the properties I looked at are between my price range of $400k-$500k I believe I have found a few good duplexes that meet FHA guidelines, have strong bones and opportunity for sweat equity that will help me raise rent in the future. However, due to the high interest rates and low market rent costs these properties would either (best case scenario) break even or potentially have negative cash flow of $300-$500 dollars per month when they are fully occupied with year long tenants. When negotiating I plan to negotiate a buy down interest rate or price of home but realistically it will still not cash flow initially.

Strategy: I would hold this property and refinance in the future once I have 20%> equity and interest rates are lower. There's also opportunity for sweat equity to improve the out of date kitchen's, bathrooms and living room  but financially I won't be able to complete the updates all at once. With the updated units I would raise the rent. In the meantime I can try renting one unit as a medium term rental to help create cash flow or potentially live in it for longer if needed while the other unit has a year long tenant. Once both units are completely updated, with higher rent and interest rates are 4% or lower each unit could cash flow $300 per month. 

Is this a bad strategy for a small return? I understand that it's a risk because interest rates could potentially stay high for a long time and it wouldn't make sense to refi but this would be my first mortgage and investment property so I feel like I can take on the risk in this time when it's hard to find a good investment deal.

I would like  stay close to Chicago for now. I also want to buy now rather then wait another 6 months so I can start building equity and avoid competition. 

Thank you for any advice or input. 

Hey @Matt Szablowski  , your questions are valid and many people will approach them in different ways. Just to give my two cents, I have househacked one property per year for the past 5-6 years. I have acquired roughly 10 units across 6 properties through creative financing and househacking.

The first thing I look for in a househack is a 2 unit building that could function like a 3 unit building - so, like a 2 unit with a bonus attic or basement. This way, I can rent out the extra spaces. Also, if there are bonus storage areas like a garage, I’ll try to rent these out separately. 

The second thing I think about are ways to increase cash flow. Renting units to long term tenants is one thing. But, could you rent by room? That’s what I did. For my very first duplex, my wife and I fixed up the 2nd unit ourselves, made a lot of mistakes, and eventually got tenants in. Then we fixed up the 1st unit and lived in one room while Airbnb-ing the 2 other two rooms. Currently, in all of my buildings, I have a combination of long term tenants, rent by room tenants, and mid term rentals. 

Lastly, I try to be as creative as I can. If I have units with 2 bedrooms, I try to see if I can convert extra spaces or a den or a bonus room into a bedroom. Then I’ll take that 3 bedroom unit and see what will cash flow me the most between short term rentals, mid term rentals, furnished finders, long term tenants, rent by room tenants, etc. 

I would never advise someone to buy a property that doesn’t cash flow. With this being said, I’ve had properties where cash flow was slim but I’ve used creative ways to make it cash flow. 

Hope this helps! 

Post: Moving to Chicago and curious re: Condo Market

Victor So
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 272
  • Votes 153
Quote from @Joseph Bruzzese:

Hey Everyone, I am moving to Chicago from the northeast with my girlfriend (plan for mid-late Spring time) and am going to be traveling out to view condos in the River North, Gold Coast, Old Town and Lincoln Park areas. I have been doing some extensive research around 2 bed, 2 bath condos in those neighborhoods and looking into the building's rental policies in case I ever would like to move back to the northeast. My question is surrounding why they appear to be so inexpensive in these larger buildings? Am I missing anything in terms of regulations or general market dynamics that would cause these prices to be lower than other, comparable metro areas?

Hey! I’ve been doing a lot of showings in these areas lately. What do you mean by larger buildings? Do you mean high rises? In this case, don’t be fooled by the seemingly low purchase prices. Often times, the hoa fees are really high. Also, many of them are smaller than advertised. I’ve noticed that units being advertised as 1200 sq ft actually are or feel much smaller. Condos in these areas also often have strict rental restrictions. Basically all of them ban short term rentals and a lot of them have a rental cap making it difficult for investors to get in the game. 

Post: Real Estate Rookie That Is Looking to Network in Chicago

Victor So
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 272
  • Votes 153
Quote from @James Worrall:

Hi all,

I am James. I am condo home owner (my second personal residence purchase) here in Chicago that has been dreaming/obsessing over beginning my journey into full time real estate investment. Any information or advice is always welcome, as I am in a stage of immense learning and growth, and if there are any other Chicago folks present hit me up anytime! I am always interested in meeting/networking.

Thanks,

James


Awesome! Have you thought about what type of investing you want to do?  

Post: We Slow Flipped This Condo As Our First Investment

Victor So
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 272
  • Votes 153
Quote from @Jake Pikowski:

Investment Info:

Condo fix & flip investment.

Purchase price: $152,500
Cash invested: $30,000
Sale price: $232,500

My wife and I purchased this condo just outside Chicago, remodeled it, lived in it for two years and then we sold it and moved Tennesee!

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

We wanted to try our hand at remodeling our own place for a profit.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

We found this deal on the MLS and negotiated a lower purchase price. We basically just stayed firm on our offer price.

How did you finance this deal?

We used private money and our savings to finance this deal.

How did you add value to the deal?

We painted the entire condo, replaced all the doors and trim, installed luxury vinyl flooring throughout, knocked down a wall to create open floor plan, re-did the entire kitchen and remodeled both bathrooms.

What was the outcome?

We sold it for a very nice profit! Since we lived in it for two years, we didn't have to pay capital gains tax.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

The lessons we learned is that we can do our own work! I watched hours of YouTube videos and practiced until I could do everything on my own. We learned how to budget for future remodels and the skills to remodel.

Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

We worked with a local agent to buy/sell the condo once we finished.


 Congrats! What area did you purchase this condo in? 

Post: LVP vs Porcelain for basements- 2018 vs 2023

Victor So
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 272
  • Votes 153
Quote from @Mario Morales:

I will be renovating a basement in Chicago and kind of crunched some numbers. It looks like to replace old tile with porcelain might run me at $11 a sq ft versus lvp from flooret (assuming the floor is leveled) at around $9 sq ft. Has anyone used LVP in basements? I have porcelain in my other basements, just wondering if I should stay the course or use LVP. 

Hey Mario, I love LVP. However, I had an issue a couple years ago where I had installed LVP in my basement and my basement flooded due to water backup from the main sewer line. LVP is water proof and durable, sure. But, the water got under them and lifted the flooring. We eventually replaced the LVP with tile. The basement flooded again once more (and finally got the issue fixed) but lucky the tile handled the flooding well. I'm always nervous about Chicago basements and always open the possibility of flooding so I always use tile now. 

Post: My First House Hack - Logan Square Chicago

Victor So
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 272
  • Votes 153

@Mark Ainley Could you DM this list as well? Thank you so much!

Post: New Real Estate investors moving to the in Chicago Area

Victor So
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 272
  • Votes 153
Quote from @Preston Phillips:

Hello fellow Bigger Pockets members, I'm a recent BP Pro member and I wanted to introduce myself. My name is Preston, my fiancée (Jade) and I will be moving up to Chicago next summer/fall from the Kansas City area. We were wanting to connect with local real estate enthusiast as we begin preparing for this journey. We will be looking into the multifamily space (owner occupant), preferably 3-4 units with the possibility of a basement unit as well. Looking to get any insight, feedback, advice necessary as currently our research has been reading, listening to podcast, and watching YouTube videos. We were able to visit a few neighborhoods over the past year and will be making more trips up there in 2023 as well. We would love to connect with any likeminded Indvidual's as we begin our journey, any and all feedback and advice is encouraged. Our current portfolio is only our single-family home in Kansas City (Overland Park area). Thank you! 

Welcome to Chicago (soon) ! I’ve househacked a number of 2-4 units in the last 5 years and acquired 10 units this way. What location are you looking into?  Keep in mind, financing and location will be important and relevant when considering 2-4 units. For example, If you’re using an fha loan, it’ll be hard to qualify for 3-4 units due to the self sufficiency test on the north side. If you’re looking in the south side or west side, you may qualify. I generally go for 2 unit properties with a bonus attic or basement that I can rent out. If you want to talk strategy, feel free to reach out!  

Post: New to BiggerPockets and the Real Estate World!!

Victor So
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 272
  • Votes 153
Quote from @Rasheed Ward:
Quote from @Paul De Luca:

@Rasheed Ward

Welcome! How are you planning on getting the first investment property?

If you're interested I can send you a list of resources I've found useful with getting started in real estate investing.


Paul, thanks for the connection. My current plan is to use an FHA loan, as I would be living in the property as well. I would appreciate any resources, thank you kindly.


 I love househacking! I’ve been doing it for the past 5 years and I’m still househacking my current residence. Let me know if I can help!