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All Forum Posts by: Victor So

Victor So has started 20 posts and replied 266 times.

Post: Need help and advice to invest in first rental property

Victor So
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 278
  • Votes 155
Quote from @Chintan Patel:

Hello everyone,

I am seeking help and advice on investing in my first rental property. Specifically, I am looking to invest in a single-family property around $250K, but I am unsure of which area to invest in for 2023.

I would greatly appreciate any insights or advice on areas that are currently good for investment, as well as any tips or suggestions for someone new to the rental property market.

Thank you in advance for your help!


 Hey Chintan, what strategy are you looking to employ? Househack? Buy and hold?

Post: Unfinished basement: To duplex down or turn into a third unit?

Victor So
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 278
  • Votes 155
Quote from @Benjamin Sussman:

I have a two unit brick building in logan square, Chicago that I’m house hacking. I have a soon to be empty 3bd/1ba first floor unit and an unfinished basement that I can either turn into a separate 2 bed one bath basement unit or I can annex it to the first floor unit and add three bedrooms in the basement.

I ran the numbers and I can make more money in both a long term rental and short term rental scenario renting the unit as a duplexed down unit and I would avoid a lot of excess work required to add the separate basement unit as a legal, conforming ADU.

What makes me nervous about duplexing down is having a less diversified income from this house hack.

If the short term rental has a few bad months or if the tenant in the unit stops paying, I have no other income to rely on in the building while im living in it. Thoughts?

Personally, I’d add a 3rd unit for various reasons. But, one thing to consider is, once you leave the property into your next property, the city most likely won’t let you have STRs in that building. The city currently only allows you to have STRs in the unit that you specifically occupy. This means that you’d have to consider the MTR route if you’re considering Airbnb, VRBO, etc., so I’d see if it’s particularly more profitable on those platforms to have a duplex down unit versus just a nice, furnished single floor unit. 

Post: First Time FHA 26 years old. (Multi-Unit)

Victor So
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 278
  • Votes 155
Quote from @Kevin Smoter:

Hello,

This is my first Post and question(s)! I would really like some help on. I have done extensive research on purchasing my first property, and I feel as if I need some guidance. I have been in the market since January this year for multifamily to invest into using FHA. I have the money saved up and analyzed hundreds of deals; however, whenever I find a *Good* deal I stand no chance in the market. For example I found a duplex In Kenosha built in 2003 with 6 beds and 4 baths split between the two bringin in 1700 in each and all the owner paid was sewage, and lawn. It was going for 365 and I offered 385 with an escalation clause to 400k, 30 day closing, as-is. sadly the seller got overwhelmed and needed an extra day and picked another offer... SHEESH! "On to the next". I made sure that every deal I do I have a good capitalization rate and ROI + scope out the location and connect some dots. Right now I am sitting on a property that with utils and tax included with FHA rate of 7% (trying to account for PMI ) with low rents 1600 each, CAP: 7.93% and ROI of %6.57. market rents in the area are 1850 so CAP: 8.9%, ROI: 34%. The problem I am having is a big thing I read about properties are Location, Location, Location. I want some clarity on this deal before pulling trigger. If someone were to have some experience with Chicago real-estate and have time to talk I would greatly appreciate it. This would be my first deal of my journey and I would really not want to shoot my self in the foot. I have plenty of more details, such as one unit has been fully renovated with in house washer and dryer, new construction in the neighborhood , but for some reason this property does not sit well with me. I have agents in all states around IL, sending me MLS and check Zillow on a 1day refresh three times a day. I feel like I cant find anything good, or I am overthinking it.

Hey Kevin, what area is this property in? Specifying that will probably narrow down the list of agents who specialize in that area. 

Post: Chicago Shared Housing Application Denial

Victor So
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 278
  • Votes 155

Hi Kayla, when you apply, the question is “Is this a primary residence?” Which is a little misleading but I believe they’re asking if the building is your primary residence, not the unit. You have to mark yes to that question. Then, it’ll be fine. Just reapply and you should be good to go as long as you hit mark yes. 

Post: Networking for a newbie

Victor So
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 278
  • Votes 155
Quote from @John Scully:

Hello, I'm John Scully, and I have most recently got a knack to pursue multi-family (2-3) condominiums/houses. I'm 18 years old, and currently hold 10k in equity, spread throughout cash and stocks. I aspire to be financially free, and hope to do so through real-estate and running my summer & spring asphalt sealcoating service. Any advice on any front from anyone would be monumental for my journey, and I'd be very grateful. I hope to network with people who are where I want to be, and grow relationships with others.


 Wow! 18 and already thinking about financial freedom and real estate. Good for you! You’ve gotten some great advice already but I would say, get into your first househack as soon as possible. This is what I would’ve done if I could go back to my college years. I started househacking 5 years ago when I was 32 years old and I acquired 10 units this way. Imagine how many I would have if I started at your age! Good luck to you and feel free to reach out if you need anything! 

Post: Buying 2-Flat w/ Not Legal Finished Basement

Victor So
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 278
  • Votes 155
Quote from @Jordan Gerkin:

Hey All! 

Curious if anyone has insight or experience with buying a 2-Flat property in Chicago with a finished basement that is not technically a legal unit. My plan would be to live in the basement unit and rent out the other two legal units. I’m just worried on how likely it would be if the city were to find out and me be fined and then required to deconvert the basement to a non livable plan basement. 

Thanks for any input! 

Hey  @Jordan Gerkin , this is a great question and many househackers wonder if this is allowed. I’ve househacked a handful of properties and most of them have non-conforming dwelling units like basements. The city is aware that these units exist all over the place and like others have mentioned, it usually becomes an issue if a tenant decides to report you. There’s obviously inherent risk to owning buildings like this, but if you’re a good landlord, make proper updates to the space, etc., then usually it’s not a problem. 

I would make sure that the unit has 2 forms of egress and 7 foot ceilings though since these two things are the most basic when it comes to converting an illegal basement to a legal one (although hopefully you won't need to). If you can find a property in the ADU zones, this obviously helps too.

Post: What 57% of the landlords do?

Victor So
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 278
  • Votes 155
Quote from @Mark Ainley:

@Arthur R. van der Vant @John Warren As both operators here in Chicago I know you guys are seeing all of these scam tenants that provide a 100% fake identify which has little red flags on the surface.  We must all have a screening process and always must follow that process.

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Excellent article @Mark Ainley  ! Always providing value. Thank you! 

Post: HouseHack vs BRRRR for first time.

Victor So
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 278
  • Votes 155
Quote from @Alex Pepe:

Hi Guys,

I've spoken with an investor friendly realtor here in my area about helping me find a house hack come July when my lease ends. I currently am paying 1200/month in rent. He says I should expect to still pay around 700/month HH'ing a 4BR house. If I used FHA on around a 350K home, Id be looking at 25-30k out of pocket, to save around 6k/year.

My question:

I'm not sure there is enough margin on 6k/year to justify a HH. Maintenance/repairs could easily erase that 6k and go beyond. If I could get closer to 0-300/month in mortgage payment, then perhaps a HH has more merit to it. Otherwise I'm of the mind to save 6-12 months longer and go into a BRRRR for my first deal.

Very curious to see what other more experienced minds think.  I appreciate the time to respond to my thoughts.

 Hey @Alex Pepe looks like you got a lot of good advice on this thread already so I don’t have much to add. But I’m not sure how you got 25-30K if you were to buy a 350K with a fha loan. Fha requires 3.5% which is $12,250 on a 350K house. Closing costs will not be more than double your down payment. Also, if you can find ways to get the seller to cover your closing costs (which is what I usually do), then you’d only be bringing $12K to the closing table which isn’t bad considering you’d be saving $6K per year. 

Post: Cash Flow House Hack with MFU

Victor So
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 278
  • Votes 155
Quote from @Matt Szablowski:

Hi BP friends,

What are your thoughts about buying a MFU house hack that initially has negative cash flow once it is occupied by tenants as long as I see possibly for cash flow in the future with refinancing for lower interest rate and completing updates that would lead to higher rent.

Background: I'm currently looking for my first house hack (and first investment) in the Chicago area with a FHA loan and 3.5% down payment. I've been searching in Jefferson Park, Albany Park, Irving Park, Portage Park, Avondale, Pilsen and University Village. Most of the properties I looked at are between my price range of $400k-$500k I believe I have found a few good duplexes that meet FHA guidelines, have strong bones and opportunity for sweat equity that will help me raise rent in the future. However, due to the high interest rates and low market rent costs these properties would either (best case scenario) break even or potentially have negative cash flow of $300-$500 dollars per month when they are fully occupied with year long tenants. When negotiating I plan to negotiate a buy down interest rate or price of home but realistically it will still not cash flow initially.

Strategy: I would hold this property and refinance in the future once I have 20%> equity and interest rates are lower. There's also opportunity for sweat equity to improve the out of date kitchen's, bathrooms and living room  but financially I won't be able to complete the updates all at once. With the updated units I would raise the rent. In the meantime I can try renting one unit as a medium term rental to help create cash flow or potentially live in it for longer if needed while the other unit has a year long tenant. Once both units are completely updated, with higher rent and interest rates are 4% or lower each unit could cash flow $300 per month. 

Is this a bad strategy for a small return? I understand that it's a risk because interest rates could potentially stay high for a long time and it wouldn't make sense to refi but this would be my first mortgage and investment property so I feel like I can take on the risk in this time when it's hard to find a good investment deal.

I would like  stay close to Chicago for now. I also want to buy now rather then wait another 6 months so I can start building equity and avoid competition. 

Thank you for any advice or input. 

Hey @Matt Szablowski  , your questions are valid and many people will approach them in different ways. Just to give my two cents, I have househacked one property per year for the past 5-6 years. I have acquired roughly 10 units across 6 properties through creative financing and househacking.

The first thing I look for in a househack is a 2 unit building that could function like a 3 unit building - so, like a 2 unit with a bonus attic or basement. This way, I can rent out the extra spaces. Also, if there are bonus storage areas like a garage, I’ll try to rent these out separately. 

The second thing I think about are ways to increase cash flow. Renting units to long term tenants is one thing. But, could you rent by room? That’s what I did. For my very first duplex, my wife and I fixed up the 2nd unit ourselves, made a lot of mistakes, and eventually got tenants in. Then we fixed up the 1st unit and lived in one room while Airbnb-ing the 2 other two rooms. Currently, in all of my buildings, I have a combination of long term tenants, rent by room tenants, and mid term rentals. 

Lastly, I try to be as creative as I can. If I have units with 2 bedrooms, I try to see if I can convert extra spaces or a den or a bonus room into a bedroom. Then I’ll take that 3 bedroom unit and see what will cash flow me the most between short term rentals, mid term rentals, furnished finders, long term tenants, rent by room tenants, etc. 

I would never advise someone to buy a property that doesn’t cash flow. With this being said, I’ve had properties where cash flow was slim but I’ve used creative ways to make it cash flow. 

Hope this helps! 

Post: Moving to Chicago and curious re: Condo Market

Victor So
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 278
  • Votes 155
Quote from @Joseph Bruzzese:

Hey Everyone, I am moving to Chicago from the northeast with my girlfriend (plan for mid-late Spring time) and am going to be traveling out to view condos in the River North, Gold Coast, Old Town and Lincoln Park areas. I have been doing some extensive research around 2 bed, 2 bath condos in those neighborhoods and looking into the building's rental policies in case I ever would like to move back to the northeast. My question is surrounding why they appear to be so inexpensive in these larger buildings? Am I missing anything in terms of regulations or general market dynamics that would cause these prices to be lower than other, comparable metro areas?

Hey! I’ve been doing a lot of showings in these areas lately. What do you mean by larger buildings? Do you mean high rises? In this case, don’t be fooled by the seemingly low purchase prices. Often times, the hoa fees are really high. Also, many of them are smaller than advertised. I’ve noticed that units being advertised as 1200 sq ft actually are or feel much smaller. Condos in these areas also often have strict rental restrictions. Basically all of them ban short term rentals and a lot of them have a rental cap making it difficult for investors to get in the game.