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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 8 posts and replied 159 times.

Post: Managing Staff - I just hired my first office manager!

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  • Real Estate Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 178
  • Votes 62

Costs a little over $3k/mo. Only works for me but I run several different companies, including brokerage and PM, as well as RE investement, as well as a few other things that have nothing to do with real estate what so ever.

Post: electrical inspector is stalking me

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  • Real Estate Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 178
  • Votes 62

A lot of building inspectors in Illinois have considerable power. It maybe difficult to envision due to the bad rep we have in Chicago, but in my opinion the building inspectors in the suburbs are much more "stern" or "strict" than in Chicago itself. In some properties that are in very bad shape (as a lot are these days), some inspectors can rush to judgement and require all of a particular thing be redone (all electrical/plumbing) even if it may not need to be, or demand a gut rehab at most extreme.

In some towns, for example in Maywood, the Village has the right before any property transaction to inspect a property for deficiencies and require that the buyer put up a bond and a guarantee and all that jazz, to fix those problems with in a few months of the closing. This is absolutely ridiculous because what if someone (like myself or a handyman) wanted to come in and fix up a property slowly? What if I was was a homeowner without a lot of cash, and I wanted to buy a fixer upper to work on on the weekends? No option. Plus, the fixes were all predetermined by the Village. In this situation imagine the considerable power and sway a building inspector may have over any particular transaction?

I had to let this particular Maywood deal go because of all the red tape. it was just too frustrating. It was disappointing because apparently Derek Rose grew up a few blocks away.

Post: Managing Staff - I just hired my first office manager!

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  • Real Estate Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 178
  • Votes 62

My advice to hiring staff is to know what you what them to do. Its great to make sure you have tasks for them everyday, but what I have found and have been trying my best to do is to develop automated tasks for your staff. In essence, its going to take for you a deep understanding of what *you want to do* in your real estate career. Yeah it sounds like its easy to know like... I wanna own a whole bunch of properties by next year. However, its important to think about strategy and methodology, because as basic processes become automated, you begin to see how much more of the entire investment function can be automated. What do I spend the most time on and what do I spend the least time on? And what part of my overall program can only I do?

In the past I spent so much time thinking about a specific property, analyzing the local market, going to the property, bringing in third party contractors, getting construction costs, looking for tenants...... etc, I haven't had time to think about what direction I'm headed and where particular properties fit in my overall portfolio. What was my vision? Where do I want to go with this? In the past it was one property at a time, and more and more it became important for me to look a bigger picture.

Its important to look at your real estate career as your own REIT. Starting with your vision and your objectives, you can break it down further, one step at a time. Your company has basic functions that can and should automated, for example, primary is book keeping and accounting, things like investor relationships and maintenance, and property management (or other asset management). Once these things are covered, another thing that can be automated is the investment analysis and due diligence, and deal negotiation and closing.

One thing I had to think about was what is the major contribution that only I can provide? Its basically deal sourcing (schmoozing with people with property - like bankers), vision and decision making (composing the portfolio with properties), and for fund raising, whether its guaranteeing loans or raising funds from rich people. These things require my personal credentials and credibility and thus cannot be automated.

When I hired someone last year, I was struggling - it was a lot of soul searching. I was forced to really think about what my desired outcome was, in specific terms. How many properties of this type do I buy, and how about of this property type? And how about by area? By coming up with a specific plan including how many properties I wanted to invest in, along with an amount of capital I needed to raise, I was able to more clearly see what I needed, and so could my staff. Its a bit scary but my staff all know what my personal real estate investing goals are and I am glad that they know because when they see our company buy a property they feel security knowing we are doing well, following our predetermined path.

With the help of my assistant we now have a written and reproducible process for collecting rent, sending receipts, documenting NOI, taking out fees, sending money to investors and owners, monthly, quarterly reporting on our website, (website for investor relations and 3rd party contrators saves tons of work-hours). We have become more efficient I think because our schedules are now more predictable. We can schedule tasks because we know how long they may take. In addition to daily duties, my assistant is now well versed in investment analysis. I can throw her a list of 30 properties and within a day have full reports of all the properties, including photo, ARV and values at various cap rates. She can take it to the next level now, working with contractors to assess the properties physically, (we developed a process for that and only work with contractors that know our method and who have worked with us before), so that she doesn't even have to leave the office.

Post: Is fortune builders mastery program legit?

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  • Real Estate Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 178
  • Votes 62

Wow! Those guys are smart!!! $5 k for 8 30 min phone calls by a random person regurgitating Internet videos? I am impressed with how they have leveraged their tv show.

Post: Sterilization should be required!!!!!

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  • Real Estate Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 178
  • Votes 62

I thought this was going to be a thread about monetary policy and central banks, but clearly I was mistaken.

On topic, I would agree with you that some authoritarianism is necessary for society to function.

Post: Real estate, stock market, both?

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  • Real Estate Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 178
  • Votes 62

I would suggest that you stay away from stocks. The market is very soft and is largely held up by government intervention and hedge fund black boxes.

If you invest in stocks, what I suggest is to follow modern portfolio theory and use ETFs to compose the portfolio. It does not always work but overall it is the best "strategy" we have now. Within modern portfolio theory there are different levels of aggressiveness. Its one of those things that when you are young and have supposedly higher levels of risk tolerance, you can increase your exposure to stocks, considered more risky, than bonds. Often the allocation of a portfolio is 70/30.

I would suggest ETFs because the market is so correlated that there are very few sectors and stocks that act out of step with the overall market. Fact of the matter is, macro factors are such a large consideration that unless there are very specific companies (like Apple) that can outperform markets, ETFs are very good way to gain exposure to a variety of asset classes.

I have a little piggy bank from my old job that is like my "if I were homeless" fund. I have asked my financial advisor to put it in the most conservative profile. The portfolio consists of mostly bonds. I will admit that they thought I was crazy and about 2 months ago was laughed at in their office (because I am 30 and my those in my age are recommended to take on the most aggressive profile). Never the less the way the market has acted in the last few weeks I do feel smart today. My portfolio consisting of mostly bonds has performed YTD better than the aggressive stock portfolio.

Check out Modern Portfolio Theory its not perfect but I think its probably the best system one has of managing a general portfolio.

To complement my MPT portfolio, I have a small retail trading account that I like to trade forex and futures and after months of frustration I have been repaid by my S&P shorts! cha ching!

Post: Hiring Interns for your REI Business

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  • Real Estate Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 178
  • Votes 62

I'm not sure about hiring 10-15 interns. I can barely manage a project manager, an office manager and a single intern!!! I wish I had your delegation skills!

Anyways I have found interns useful. Currently, I am working with a local university that requires students to have an internship to graduate. The student is given college credit. I have a lot of paper work to do, including an assessment of the student, plus the student has homework about their experience so I often help them by answering questions about the real estate business. My current intern is former Army and served in Iraq, and is a graduating finance major. He's a bit older so he has the maturity level that some other interns don't. I get different interns every quarter and they usually work 15 hours a week.

For my current intern, what I have him doing is I have shared with him my investment goals and financial models, and he is running leads in our model to see if it fits the goals of our company. If its a decent investment I showed him how to do preliminary due diligence and develop a proposal for the investment committee.

I don't feel like I am using interns as free labor, though I do admit that their labor is very valuable. There is a cost to me as a job trainer, and occasional hand holder, and depending on the individual it is hit or miss, but I have found that students are eager to learn and engage the material, and overall have been a good fit for our small firm.

Post: Managing Staff - I just hired my first office manager!

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  • Real Estate Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 178
  • Votes 62

For the last year or so I have a project manager that works with me on a lot of the re investing work. For a while we were able to divide up all the work in the field, as well as get all the paperwork done at the office. For the last few months it has been difficult or even impossible. Imagine stacks and stacks of envelopes, and piles upon piles of paper that need to be corresponded to or filed away. I am just sick of sitting in the office until 1am dealing with paper. Organization also has never been my forte. Today, after 2 weeks of interviews we have found the perfect office manager for our office!!

I am wondering if anyone else here has an office manager, and I am wondering a few things:
- How do you maintain and assess the effectiveness of your staff?
- We have recurring tasks, as well as other projects including fires that need to be put out every day. How do you divide up responsibilities among different staff members?
- How do you keep everyone in the loop? If people are leaving at 7:30 am to head out to the field, what is the best way to keep everyone in touch? I was thinking of having at least biweekly (twice a week) meetings for all 3 of us to at least touch base.

Any other insights in the the management of staff would be deeply appreciated!

Post: How are you finding your deals? Lets Brainstorm on what's working

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  • Real Estate Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 178
  • Votes 62

You guys make it sound so difficult? Direct mail? We buy homes?! What?!

What I have been doing is to get on the REO mailing lists direct from banks. They update these once a month or so and send them out to people on their list serve, especially to those people who have closed deals and purchased from them before.

An allegory to this, I have been successful finding deals through the building of relationships with commercial bankers, especially those in the "Special Assets" division. Make friends with them, and they will give you first dibs on their distressed portfolio. And when I mean make friends, I don't mean kiss their a** but genuinely attempt to become friends whether or not you end up getting access to the portfolio. Many times, relationships will lead to more relationships.

Relationships like this have led me to virtually all the deals I have done in the last 6 months. For example, many banks have exposure to commercial loans that have hard assets like real estate as security. A lot of commercial bankers that do not sit in a real estate division have to manage distressed security like real estate, but have no ability to do so because they are literally only knowledgeable in only commercial banking. In a recent deal, I was able to purchase a portfolio of notes from a bank, where the lender borrowed tens of millions of dollars, and as part of his security was a small $4 mm RE portfolio. The banker so stressed with the commercial part of the loan had never visited the properties or even cared about their welfare. We got the portfolio for about $450k, and found that the bank was delinquent on a lot of property taxes, had not secured properties, vagrants and wild dogs living in homes etc.... However, we got the properties deed in lieu from the owner who was in bankruptcy and we have been fixing up these bad boys and renting them out.

A lot of times a good relationship with a banker will reap you benefits even for properties on the MLS. We recently purchased 2 multiunits (8 units total) that were listed on the MLS for $450k. After negotiation with the bank and going back and forth for a month or so we came to a contract price of $250k. We still had to pay the RE broker that listed the property, but the price was negotiated with the bank. He was not pleased with the price. Banks are willing to negotiate if you can cultivate the relationship. Another example, we recently were brought a deal by a Special Assets manager for a local bank. 29 unit building in a busy not so great neighborhood. Was last purchased for $1.2mm in 2004. The building is now vacant and totally ransacked and we have it under contract for $130k. Its gonna need 600k to fix it up, but even at that price, the cash on cash ROI is still upwards of 25%.

My point is hang out where bankers hang out, goto networking events, worth with non profits and people in the community. GO join the most expensive exclusive athletic clubs. Here in Chicago for example, a lot of networking gets done at the East Bank Club, athletic club of the stars and the wealthy. Play some basketball and you will definitely meet some cool cats, useful for your real estate investing business.

Post: Need some good books to learn?

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  • Real Estate Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 178
  • Votes 62

Heres an interesting article on 1031s from CCIM.

http://www.ccim.com/cire-magazine/articles/180778/2012/05/1031-timing