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All Forum Posts by: Ursula Leake

Ursula Leake has started 1 posts and replied 11 times.

Quote from @Account Closed:
Quote from @Ursula Leake:

@Justin Brickman this is my strategy yet I have to occupy the house for 12 months not 6. It is definitely getting harder the more I scale because lenders are making me jump through a million hurdles. Where are you finding lenders that only allow you to occupy a home for 6 months. How many have you purchased doing this and have you found that it gets harder the more you purchase?

There is a way to get around all of that. If you buy "off market" and use creative finance, there are none of those limitations. Click to enlarge

Here's one for instance
So, I bought "off market" paid the seller $5,000 and I paid closing costs. No bank involved, no seasoning, no limit to number of properties

@Account Closed Hi. Thanks for sharing this. Does this only work for “off market” deals? Does this work if the seller still has a mortgage on the property? I wanted to explore seller financing but have no idea where to start or even how to approach the owner about it.

@Justin Brickman this is my strategy yet I have to occupy the house for 12 months not 6. It is definitely getting harder the more I scale because lenders are making me jump through a million hurdles. Where are you finding lenders that only allow you to occupy a home for 6 months. How many have you purchased doing this and have you found that it gets harder the more you purchase?

@Jaryn Pierson I think the listing is fine in regards to things you’ve mentioned I didn’t get professional photos done but I think it shows well. I’m getting eyes and interest it’s just when I send them the free pre-qualification before showing they disappear. That’s why I was impressed you actually got people to complete a paid application before seeing the property. I do have an unconventional question on their like me doing a home visit as apart of my process they may be a turn off! Non the less a few have actually completed it so it must not be that bad I guess it just shows I’m not for everyone and everyone isn’t for me!

@Melanie P. I found it! I was looking from my phone and it’s apparently only showing from my laptop! Thank you

hi Alison! So I wanted to add the premium feature to my listing but I can’t find out how to do that. I’ve searched google and watched videos and still don’t see that feature😣…can you direct me on how to add it? Thank you

Quote from @Alison Brenner:

Zillow Premium Listing services has never failed me. But, here's the caveat based on my experience. Your listing will get preferential treatment for the first five to seven days. If you aren't hyper-responsive, there's no point in paying for the upgraded service. Within the first five days of listing, I expect to field calls and messages from over a hundred prospectives and be willing to do 30-50 showings during that period. By day six, I am lucky to get one to three phone calls or messages from prospectives and maybe one to two showings per day. Zillow Premium is worth it if you are willing to do the work during that first week.


Hi Grant! Love what you’ve built! As far as getting HELOC’s did you find it difficult to find lenders willing to do this on your investment properties? I know it’s much easier for primary residence’s. Can you share the lenders you’ve used to achieve this?

 Quote from @John Morgan:

@Grant Stuard

I've got 24 SFR and it took me 8 years. It was slow the first 5 or 6 years since I could only afford to buy 2 houses a year. But I found ways by getting creative with finances like doing five 401k loans to acquire houses. I've used 0% for a year credit cards to buy houses several times (just did one last month-lol). I used a HELOC to snag 2 houses (my first 2 rentals). And I've bought 12 houses with zero out of pocket $ by doing cash out refis on houses that had some equity I wanted to tap into. I've paid myself back every penny I've ever put into real estate so it's infinite cash flow from here on out. But I've found ways to get the cash for down payments then have harvested equity to scale up.


Hi Matthew! That’s exactly the steps I’m taking. I was just blown away by the number of people that disappear after sending the Google document. Do you notice a lot of people not filling yours out?

Quote from @Matthew Kwan:

Well usually pre-screening application help weed out the limited interest prospects or you can have a set of questionnaires before you setup a tour with them. After the tour, if they're still interested, and they match the your criteria/standards, you can send them a credit/background check which typically cost $35-50 fee being non refundable. The fee will allow them to be more committed and more skin in the game.

@Carlos Valencia @Albert Bui


Hi Jason! I did actually create a google form to save us all on time. I started to worry when only 1% filled it out after getting several “when can I view your property” messages. I analyzed the questions I was asking several times and just figured maybe these forms aren’t that popular therefore it’s scaring folks away. Maybe the 1% is better than the masses.🤔

Quote from @Jason Wray:

Ursula,

At the end of the day as a landlord/owner you do not want to rent to anyone who has bad credit and does not pay their bills. You also want to avoid "tire kickers" or people who are not ready to rent and just wasting time. How you avoid that in most case is to take an application for a pre-screen to do the research.

Like a Banker we need to take an application before we send out an approval and that’s not much different than renting a home. What I would say is develop a script that you use to make the prescreen seem like its a renter tool or "benefit". You could say we use this as our way to keep all interested parties in our "Approved" database so that as new properties come up you are already in the system. This helps you have a better chance on being the first person to know when a property is available.

Basically helps us gauge your income and your Max monthly payment so that we can align you with the right rental. Although we do look at credit its not an ultimate decision maker instead its just a way to verify who you are in a legal way other than a simple drivers license to protect all parties.


Hi Jaryn! Interesting. Do they have to pay for your application? I know every app I’ve come across cost for background and credit checks. If that’s the case that’s impressive you get applicants that actually do all of that prior to even seeing the property. That’s my very last step. I did create a free google form and I noticed only about 1% will actually fill it out. I thought it was the questions I was asking therefore I tweaked the form 1000 times by now. I guess it’s a good thing that people disappear after they receive the form.

Quote from @Jaryn Pierson:

Hey Ursula

Great topic, simple answer. I'm not showing an apartment to anyone who hasn't filled out an application with a background and credit check.  From there, I set up appointments with anyone who has qualified.

Qualification equals income = 3x rent, credit 650+, no housing court issues, no violent crimes. 

I always try to set up appointments right around the same time, and take the first person who has a deposit to hold in my hands.  Very simple, very black and white. 

I'll get 50+ comments of 'when can I see the apartment' in the Zillow portal. I always just use the saved reply which is 'as soon as you fill out the application we can set up a showing'. Only 10% actually fill out the application. Saves ton of time on my end and weeds out the non serious residents.

Happy Investing !