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All Forum Posts by: Michaela Hayes

Michaela Hayes has started 3 posts and replied 12 times.

Post: Any good lenders in Philadelphia?

Michaela HayesPosted
  • Wholesaler
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 14
  • Votes 1

Does anyone have any good lenders in the Philadelphia region for fix and flip deals? Lenders that will not charge an arm and leg for upfront fees or points etc? I don't mind paying some fees but I feel that some lenders charge a bit too much for deals, Thanks for all your help! 

Originally posted by @Vamsee Lella:

Hi folks, I am in the same situation as Michaela. I am trying to do a cash out refinance of my rental property that I have owned for over 3yrs now. I quit my full time job December of last year and will not have a W2 income or other income to show. Wondering what my options are.                                   Hi Joseph and Harjeet - I will reach out to you folks on the side

 Hey contact me I'll share what information I gathered so far 

Post: Need advice on current rehab project with hard money lender.

Michaela HayesPosted
  • Wholesaler
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 14
  • Votes 1
Originally posted by @Ann Bellamy:

Well, it is hard to tell from this post which is happening:  either the work is not completed satisfactorily, or the lender is holding funds for some reason, possibly unrelated to the project.  

As a baseline, we try to get to a project within 2 days of the borrower requesting an inspection.   With rehabs, we do our own inspections.  Then, if the work is not completed as submitted, we explain on the spot what is missing, what we are withholding, and why.  This doesn't happen often, but it does happen.  Then we wire funds the next morning.  It is in our interest to keep the project moving, and providing the funds is part of that.  

On larger, more complex projects, we utilize an inspection service.  The inspectors are pros, and they will occasionally hold funds if appropriate lien waivers are not supplied.  Could this be part of the issue?  But they are quick, and are out to a project within a couple of days, and inspections are submitted to us normally the afternoon of an inspection.  We then wire that next morning.  

With borrowers who are very experienced and good at what they do, occasionally when we arrive, a portion of the work submitted for reimbursement is not completed.  If we can see that it is in process, we might be a little more liberal with borrowers who we know well.  However, the reality of experienced borrowers is that they are more often ahead of what they submitted rather than behind, because they value their reputation and relationship with their best lenders, and they have funds to continue the work.  

The flip side of this is that sometimes inexperienced borrowers are all over the place, with poor quality control, poor communication with contractors, hiring and firing multiple contractors, inspection delays, poor planning for utility connections, and on and on.   Including lack of actual on-site supervision.   Those inexperienced borrowers will frequently submit a draw based on what their contractor tells them, rather than what they have actually seen as completed.  Or if they have change orders, they will submit based on money spent, rather than work completed.  We only reimburse based on work completed.  

Now to the lender's possible reasons:  If it is a small lender, it could be he/she is short of funds.  Sometimes small lenders commit funds based on what they expect to have back from a deal, rather than what they actually have in the bank.  This can be a huge problem for you, the borrower, because time is money in your case.  If it is a larger lender, this less likely, and it is more likely the quality or substance of the work.  

I would question the inspector at the time of the inspection to find out exactly what he is recommending to hold back and why.  That will be the beginning of your answer as to why it is being held back.

You can most certainly refinance with another hard money lender, but ask yourself if the cost will be worth it.    I cannot help you, as I don't work in your area.  I am writing this as a general information post to help others, not to solicit business.  

Rather than assuming all hard money lenders are like this one, network in your local real estate group to find lenders who others have worked with and recommend.  I frequently get deals from experienced borrowers who can get conventional financing, but choose to borrower from me because I'm good to work with, fast, and predictable.  

 Hi Amy, 

Thanks for your response. I think it just comes down to the inspector. Theres some days I request an inspection for that week, and he tells me he is not available until the following week. Which in my opinion is ridiculous. Like I stated before I have another lender to contrast between the two and that one I email say I need an inspection and they are out there within a few days. I do realize this is the way it is supposed to work after working with this other lender.

I do not think it has anything to do with the work not being finalized because I request the inspection only after the work is completed or atleast 90% completed. Yes Im trying to weigh my options on going with another lender with all the points and fees that it will cost to switch over my two accounts. After this experience I have definitely learned my lesson and will do more shopping around when it comes to lenders, I guess this has been a learning experience as a whole, thank you for your input!

Post: Need advice on current rehab project with hard money lender.

Michaela HayesPosted
  • Wholesaler
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 14
  • Votes 1
Originally posted by @Stanley Parsley:

keep your head up

sometimes when we think it is going to go smooth it just doesn't

don't look at whata shoulda coulda

look at this as a learning curve ball and do what you can with what you have until you can close the deal

in the middle trying to get a dif loan is out, nobody is going to touch that

another bad thing about some of these guys they will sell you a bunch of black roses and want you to fail so they can take over the property

I had that experience from a lender out of Utah-hard money all right, they were a scam

go ahead and see what you can do to get it done, get you a network after the flip and close with money out so you have capital for your next project

enjoy

 Hi Stanley, 

Honestly I feel like you are 100% right I feel like the lender wants me to not accomplish the projects so that they could take over the projects and get the Profit since the profits on the two projects are very good. Yes this is definitely a learning curve and I think next time I may be alil more strategic when it comes to the whole lending process.

Post: Need advice on current rehab project with hard money lender.

Michaela HayesPosted
  • Wholesaler
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 14
  • Votes 1
Originally posted by @J Scott:

In the future, get an agreement upfront for what work will be completed for each draw, and how much will be released.  This should be discussed before the loan is made. 

Hi thank you will do! I usually do my flips with my own capital but decided to expand and the experience with this one lender is just putting a bad taste in my mouth so to speak. 

Post: Need advice on current rehab project with hard money lender.

Michaela HayesPosted
  • Wholesaler
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 14
  • Votes 1
Originally posted by @Steven Stokes:

@Michaela Hayes is there someone higher up that you can talk to? This doesn't seem right.

 It is possible, I just feel like inspector will try and justify his actions and since its the companies own inspector going out to inspect,  they will side with him over my concerns with the projects I have with them. 

Post: Need advice on current rehab project with hard money lender.

Michaela HayesPosted
  • Wholesaler
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 14
  • Votes 1
Originally posted by @Steven Stokes:

Hey Michaela, 

What you are describing is one of the main reasons why I no longer use hard money lenders. There are so many hoops you have to jump through for hard money lenders that getting the money from them is almost as hard as getting a deal from the seller. 

My advice, for now, is start calling other hard money lenders in your area, explain the situation that you are in with this hard money lender and see if they will be able to put together a deal that will pay the lender off and fund the rest of your deal. If you have a good enough deal, you should be able to get funding.

In the future, find your own investors. Hard money lender, get money from investors. You can save money in interest payments and have much less red tape by putting together your own team of investors.  

Finding investors is not rocket science it just takes some persistence and networking in the beginning. 

I hope this helps.

Good luck.

 Hi Steven, 

I completely understand why, I have a new lender that I have one of my projects with and if I request 15k worth of work they release the full amount. This project is going smoothly because Im able to get back the full amount I put into the project to go on to the next phase. This other lender is just ridiculous, I will most certainly call around to see if they can take over the project, the deals I have are great spreads for profits so Im sure another lender would not have a problem taking it over, I just have to find one that would be willing to do it. Yes, I agree I think the next time I will try and network to find other investors,  my only question is how much profit would you offer to fund a project?

Post: Need advice on current rehab project with hard money lender.

Michaela HayesPosted
  • Wholesaler
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 14
  • Votes 1
Originally posted by @J Scott:

Do they explain WHY they only release part of the draw?  Have you not completed the work required for that draw?  Or are they not adhering to their agreement?  

 Hi, I completed all work on the draw schedule and the inspector decides on how much he wants to release per draw. Does not adhere to the amounts for the work, EX: request 15k for HVAC only released      7k, its because of this that its slowing down all my projects that I have with them, because I have so much of my own funds into the project and don't have enough to go on to the next phase of completion.  He does not explain why he only releases part of the draw just says that I need more work done before he can release more. 

Post: Need advice on current rehab project with hard money lender.

Michaela HayesPosted
  • Wholesaler
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 14
  • Votes 1

I have a situation with my current hard money lender that is slowing my progress on my projects causing me to pay more interest only payments than expected. One of the biggest issues I have with the lender is that they are slow to inspect and when they do they only release about 40% of the draw which causes me to have to front more money for the project than I was expecting. The entire process has slowed my progression on the projects and I wanted to get advice on if it is possible to switch lenders when your almost halfway through a rehab and if anyone has ever done it, Thanks!

Originally posted by @Harjeet Bhatti:

75% is the max cash out on one unit depend only when you bought this property.  

Hi purchased property about a year ago this month.